Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints

AsylumGuido · 08-04-2022, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

I think it's a little hypocritical that the NFL takes tampering so seriously, and yet does nothing for the alleged victims of the tampering. Why not award the Pats and us the draft picks that the Dolphins are losing?

How would they accomplish that? Who would get the 2023 first and who would get 2024 third? I can see your point, but can't see any way to pull it off fairly without pissing off other teams. Apparently tampering at some level goes on all the time across the league from what I have read. The problem with Miami though is that they carried it to an extreme AND also threatened the "integrity of the game" with the blatant tanking wishes of the owner. That's why they threw the book at Ross, I believe.

stickman · 08-08-2022, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How would they accomplish that? Who would get the 2023 first and who would get 2024 third? I can see your point, but can't see any way to pull it off fairly without pissing off other teams. Apparently tampering at some level goes on all the time across the league from what I have read. The problem with Miami though is that they carried it to an extreme AND also threatened the "integrity of the game" with the blatant tanking wishes of the owner. That's why they threw the book at Ross, I believe.

What about compensatory picks? Those are at best a 3rd rounder.

Just throwing that out there. In this case, the Dolphins didn't actually sign either Payton or Brady, so it's not like a team actually lost someone. Unless you can prove the tampering caused Payton to resign, and that would be difficult if not impossible.

neugey · 08-08-2022, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

What about compensatory picks? Those are at best a 3rd rounder.

Just throwing that out there. In this case, the Dolphins didn't actually sign either Payton or Brady, so it's not like a team actually lost someone. Unless you can prove the tampering caused Payton to resign, and that would be difficult if not impossible.

That's an even better idea. Take away the picks as described by the Dolphins and add compensatory (end of 3rd round) picks for the Saints and Pats. IMO if the league office is to be taken seriously about tampering, not only do they need to punish a team caught in serious violation, but they also need to compensate the team(s) victimized by the tampering. Since the player/coach were not actually poached (although it was attempted), a compensatory pick for each team seems fair. Maybe multiple compensatory picks for the Pats if it's been proven they were tampered with on more than one separate occasion.

08-04-2022, 07:43 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Originally Posted by neugey I think it's a little hypocritical that the NFL takes tampering so seriously, and yet does nothing for the alleged victims of the tampering. Why not award the Pats and us the draft picks that the Dolphins are losing? How would they accomplish that? Who would get the 2023 first and who would get 2024 third? I can see your point, but can't see any way to pull it off fairly without pissing off other teams. Apparently tampering at some level goes on all the time across the league from what I have read. The problem with Miami though is that they carried it to an extreme AND also threatened the "integrity of the game" with the blatant tanking wishes of the owner. That's why they threw the book at Ross, I believe.

08-08-2022, 06:42 AM	#2
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,815	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How would they accomplish that? Who would get the 2023 first and who would get 2024 third? I can see your point, but can't see any way to pull it off fairly without pissing off other teams. Apparently tampering at some level goes on all the time across the league from what I have read. The problem with Miami though is that they carried it to an extreme AND also threatened the "integrity of the game" with the blatant tanking wishes of the owner. That's why they threw the book at Ross, I believe. What about compensatory picks? Those are at best a 3rd rounder. Just throwing that out there. In this case, the Dolphins didn't actually sign either Payton or Brady, so it's not like a team actually lost someone. Unless you can prove the tampering caused Payton to resign, and that would be difficult if not impossible. neugey, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-08-2022, 12:49 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Originally Posted by stickman What about compensatory picks? Those are at best a 3rd rounder. Just throwing that out there. In this case, the Dolphins didn't actually sign either Payton or Brady, so it's not like a team actually lost someone. Unless you can prove the tampering caused Payton to resign, and that would be difficult if not impossible. That's an even better idea. Take away the picks as described by the Dolphins and add compensatory (end of 3rd round) picks for the Saints and Pats. IMO if the league office is to be taken seriously about tampering, not only do they need to punish a team caught in serious violation, but they also need to compensate the team(s) victimized by the tampering. Since the player/coach were not actually poached (although it was attempted), a compensatory pick for each team seems fair. Maybe multiple compensatory picks for the Pats if it's been proven they were tampered with on more than one separate occasion. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.