New Orleans Saints Coach Dennis Allen, players talk about loss to Tampa Bay Buccaneers | 2022 NFL Week 2

Budsdrinker · 09-19-2022, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Is it stenosis? If so, then yes. What you have sounds like stenosis or some other affliction affecting the nerves running from the spinal cord to the extremities, right? Thus the need for fusion. And that definitely affects mobility. Big time.

I would assume what Winston is dealing with is not affecting the spinal cord itself and is simply fractures to the bones themselves and not affecting the spinal cord. If it was a spinal issue like yours there's no way they'd allow him to play.

Fractures would just be localized pain. That's what I have basically, except mine are bone spurs in the facet joints from arthritis. Hairline fractures, like spurs, wouldn't affect the mobility of my arms and hands which are associated with C-4 - C-7 beyond the pain of the local area. Killing that pain eliminates all of my issues with mobility. I would assume the same goes for the lumbar region as long as no spinal issues are involved.

Yes, mine is affecting the nerves. I would also think with the fractures that there is inflammation that is affecting the nerves as well. Regardless it's all about pain tolerance and how you react to shooting pains in your legs with certain movements. I still do most things, (stopped playing golf last month) and just deal with the pain but it does affect mobility. Budweiser, whiskey and Advil helps. Don't think Winston can do that.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2022, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Yes, mine is affecting the nerves. I would also think with the fractures that there is inflammation that is affecting the nerves as well. Regardless it's all about pain tolerance and how you react to shooting pains in your legs with certain movements. I still do most things, (stopped playing golf last month) and just deal with the pain but it does affect mobility. Budweiser, whiskey and Advil helps. Don't think Winston can do that.

I understand what you are going through. I see plenty of other patients with the same problem when I go to my pain doctor. I have some stenosis myself, but not severe and hasn't affected the nerves much at all. Mine is mostly the vertebrate structure itself, specifically the facet joints.

And, yes, inflammation could be affecting the nerves I suppose. I know an ESI would help that a lot, but I'm not sure if that is allowed since it is steroid based.

Sounds like what he may have are fractures to the tips of the facets. I know that can happen from impact. Can't remember the QB that had that a few years back, but it doesn't affect the nerves at all. Just pain tolerance. And, like I said, there are ways to control that. However, thinking about it, his mobility could easily have been hampered by the padding they said they used for protection. It would have had to have gone around his hips. Hopefully they can come up with something less cumbersome if that is an issue.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2022, 04:58 PM

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: New Orleans Saints Coach Dennis Allen, players talk about loss to Tampa Bay Buccaneers \| 2022 NFL Week 2 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Is it stenosis? If so, then yes. What you have sounds like stenosis or some other affliction affecting the nerves running from the spinal cord to the extremities, right? Thus the need for fusion. And that definitely affects mobility. Big time. I would assume what Winston is dealing with is not affecting the spinal cord itself and is simply fractures to the bones themselves and not affecting the spinal cord. If it was a spinal issue like yours there's no way they'd allow him to play. Fractures would just be localized pain. That's what I have basically, except mine are bone spurs in the facet joints from arthritis. Hairline fractures, like spurs, wouldn't affect the mobility of my arms and hands which are associated with C-4 - C-7 beyond the pain of the local area. Killing that pain eliminates all of my issues with mobility. I would assume the same goes for the lumbar region as long as no spinal issues are involved. Yes, mine is affecting the nerves. I would also think with the fractures that there is inflammation that is affecting the nerves as well. Regardless it's all about pain tolerance and how you react to shooting pains in your legs with certain movements. I still do most things, (stopped playing golf last month) and just deal with the pain but it does affect mobility. Budweiser, whiskey and Advil helps. Don't think Winston can do that. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-19-2022, 02:02 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: New Orleans Saints Coach Dennis Allen, players talk about loss to Tampa Bay Buccaneers \| 2022 NFL Week 2 Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Yes, mine is affecting the nerves. I would also think with the fractures that there is inflammation that is affecting the nerves as well. Regardless it's all about pain tolerance and how you react to shooting pains in your legs with certain movements. I still do most things, (stopped playing golf last month) and just deal with the pain but it does affect mobility. Budweiser, whiskey and Advil helps. Don't think Winston can do that. I understand what you are going through. I see plenty of other patients with the same problem when I go to my pain doctor. I have some stenosis myself, but not severe and hasn't affected the nerves much at all. Mine is mostly the vertebrate structure itself, specifically the facet joints. And, yes, inflammation could be affecting the nerves I suppose. I know an ESI would help that a lot, but I'm not sure if that is allowed since it is steroid based. Sounds like what he may have are fractures to the tips of the facets. I know that can happen from impact. Can't remember the QB that had that a few years back, but it doesn't affect the nerves at all. Just pain tolerance. And, like I said, there are ways to control that. However, thinking about it, his mobility could easily have been hampered by the padding they said they used for protection. It would have had to have gone around his hips. Hopefully they can come up with something less cumbersome if that is an issue.
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09-19-2022, 04:58 PM	#3
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