Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

turbo_dog · 10-03-2022, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

- In 12 seconds we couldn't get the ball even five yards closer for the final attempt by Lutz? Brees would have had us down to the 20.

Honestly looking back at that play it looked like we should have had 16 seconds left.

Boston Saint · 10-03-2022, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Honestly looking back at that play it looked like we should have had 16 seconds left.

Refs at their finest.

Crusader · 10-04-2022, 11:47 AM

Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while.

Boston Saint · 10-04-2022, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while.

Missed that.

BakoSaint · 10-04-2022, 12:32 PM

What if we are so obsessed with justifying our questionable draft picks that there is almost no limit to it. Like maybe we went back to Ingram and put Murray back on the practice squad knowing other teams including the Falcons needed running backs because we are still trying to justify trading up in the draft for Ingram even when he is at the end of his career, fumbles constantly, and has been to other teams and back as a marginal free agent? This would also explain Trautman getting snaps at TE over Johnson and Hill despite poor blocking and penalties. It would explain our love of our lousy guards. It would explain Trainwreck Smith making the team. I have never liked Ingram. He had decent ypc when we had a great oline for a brief period mid-career but even then he always seemed to fumble or get stopped at the worst times. He was never clutch to me.

If Throckmorton can’t play well enough to compete with Peat and Ruiz maybe there are better guards on other practice squads or on the street.

K Major · 10-04-2022, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while.

I missed that too.

MI needs to have that same energy running against the opponent

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Boston Saint · 10-04-2022, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

What if we are so obsessed with justifying our questionable draft picks that there is almost no limit to it. Like maybe we went back to Ingram and put Murray back on the practice squad knowing other teams including the Falcons needed running backs because we are still trying to justify trading up in the draft for Ingram even when he is at the end of his career, fumbles constantly, and has been to other teams and back as a marginal free agent? This would also explain Trautman getting snaps at TE over Johnson and Hill despite poor blocking and penalties. It would explain our love of our lousy guards. It would explain Trainwreck Smith making the team. I have never liked Ingram. He had decent ypc when we had a great oline for a brief period mid-career but even then he always seemed to fumble or get stopped at the worst times. He was never clutch to me.

If Throckmorton can’t play well enough to compete with Peat and Ruiz maybe there are better guards on other practice squads or on the street.

I swear bako, you must be Guido’s alter ego like Two Face from Batman or Jekyl and Hyde! 🤣

SaintFanQ · 10-04-2022, 01:14 PM

I was just happy to be at the game and see my Saints team play! Last time was 2017 at Wembley!

Also, it was an exciting game, especially for all the "neutral" fans there!

Saints made a game of it at least and kept the score close, plus my first visit to that stadium and it was amazing! Sell out crowd of 65.000! Who Dat!!!

hitta · 10-04-2022, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Murray > Ingram.

4 turnovers in 4 games.

The “rust” excuse is over for our offense. We aren’t very creative with the game plan. Someone tell Pete that LTrain gets STRONGER (avg 5 yard PER CARRY) in the second half & DBs are less likely to tackle him.

Then he disappears for a quarter. Ride your hot hand.

No discipline (miscues/turnovers) coaching has been bad.

This is life without Sean. People were *****ing about Sean about 5 years ago and were like we needed a reset. Well, this is what that looks like. Sean may have been the best coach in the league. I think Drew and him made the roster look better than it actually was. The D in the last few years has finally come around. It's a shame we couldn't get Brees a defense when he was in his better years. Brady always had a D to fall back on. If you gave Brees a D, he'd won multiple championships and people would be debating on whether he was the best of all time.

K Major · 10-04-2022, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

This is life without Sean. People were *****ing about Sean about 5 years ago and were like we needed a reset. Well, this is what that looks like. Sean may have been the best coach in the league. I think Drew and him made the roster look better than it actually was. The D in the last few years has finally come around. It's a shame we couldn't get Brees a defense when he was in his better years.

10-03-2022, 08:32 PM	#51
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by AsylumGuido - In 12 seconds we couldn't get the ball even five yards closer for the final attempt by Lutz? Brees would have had us down to the 20. Honestly looking back at that play it looked like we should have had 16 seconds left.

10-03-2022, 09:01 PM	#52
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by turbo_dog Honestly looking back at that play it looked like we should have had 16 seconds left. Refs at their finest. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-04-2022, 11:47 AM	#53
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while.

10-04-2022, 12:20 PM	#54
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by Crusader Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while. Missed that.

10-04-2022, 12:32 PM	#55
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings What if we are so obsessed with justifying our questionable draft picks that there is almost no limit to it. Like maybe we went back to Ingram and put Murray back on the practice squad knowing other teams including the Falcons needed running backs because we are still trying to justify trading up in the draft for Ingram even when he is at the end of his career, fumbles constantly, and has been to other teams and back as a marginal free agent? This would also explain Trautman getting snaps at TE over Johnson and Hill despite poor blocking and penalties. It would explain our love of our lousy guards. It would explain Trainwreck Smith making the team. I have never liked Ingram. He had decent ypc when we had a great oline for a brief period mid-career but even then he always seemed to fumble or get stopped at the worst times. He was never clutch to me. If Throckmorton can’t play well enough to compete with Peat and Ruiz maybe there are better guards on other practice squads or on the street.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by Crusader Did anyone see Ingram fighting with Cam Jordan on the sidlines? From where I sat it looked like a coach had to separate them and Ingram seemed agitated for quite a while. I missed that too. MI needs to have that same energy running against the opponent . Rugby Saint II likes this.

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SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 797	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings I was just happy to be at the game and see my Saints team play! Last time was 2017 at Wembley! Also, it was an exciting game, especially for all the "neutral" fans there! Saints made a game of it at least and kept the score close, plus my first visit to that stadium and it was amazing! Sell out crowd of 65.000! Who Dat!!! AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

10-04-2022, 04:24 PM	#59
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by K Major Murray > Ingram. 4 turnovers in 4 games. The “rust” excuse is over for our offense. We aren’t very creative with the game plan. Someone tell Pete that LTrain gets STRONGER (avg 5 yard PER CARRY) in the second half & DBs are less likely to tackle him. Then he disappears for a quarter. Ride your hot hand. No discipline (miscues/turnovers) coaching has been bad. This is life without Sean. People were *****ing about Sean about 5 years ago and were like we needed a reset. Well, this is what that looks like. Sean may have been the best coach in the league. I think Drew and him made the roster look better than it actually was. The D in the last few years has finally come around. It's a shame we couldn't get Brees a defense when he was in his better years. Brady always had a D to fall back on. If you gave Brees a D, he'd won multiple championships and people would be debating on whether he was the best of all time. jnormand likes this.
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10-04-2022, 04:38 PM	#60
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings Originally Posted by hitta This is life without Sean. People were *****ing about Sean about 5 years ago and were like we needed a reset. Well, this is what that looks like. Sean may have been the best coach in the league. I think Drew and him made the roster look better than it actually was. The D in the last few years has finally come around. It's a shame we couldn't get Brees a defense when he was in his better years.