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papz 10-03-2022 08:16 PM

Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad
 

What in the actual f…

Lord_Saint83 10-03-2022 08:24 PM

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That’s some bullsh*t. I would kept Murray and got rid of Jones Jr.

Boston Saint 10-03-2022 08:26 PM

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I blame the refs.

bobdog86 10-03-2022 08:30 PM

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That’s just dumb…..unfortunate. Hate to see it

K Major 10-03-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 960067)
That’s just dumb…..unfortunate. Hate to see it

According to the NFL rules, no team can simply sign him.

LTrain quite possibly chose his new team (more playing time) and money.

The way we ignored him in the 3rd quarter, I can’t blame him.

I wish LT well, he’s been a very good player every-time he suited up for the Saints :bng:

BakoSaint 10-03-2022 08:42 PM

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Its ok, if we want him back Loomis will just trade high round future draft picks to make it happen. We are so deep we dont need any draft picks anyway.

subguy 10-04-2022 06:04 AM

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My initial thoughts to seeing this last night was, the hits just keep on coming. I like what he brought in the last game.

leilung 10-04-2022 06:38 AM

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What in the actual f*ck is going on in our front office? Seriously!

Drug test them ALL!!!!

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 06:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 960069)
According to the NFL rules, no team can simply sign him.

LTrain quite possibly chose his new team (more playing time) and money.

The way we ignored him in the 3rd quarter, I can’t blame him.

I wish LT well, he’s been a very good player every-time he suited up for the Saints :bng:

This is correct. It is Murray's call. Last week he was sitting on his couch and all 31 other teams had access to signing him and didn't. Since he was simply elevated from the practice squad for the game Sunday he was still available to be approached (or more likely his agent was) and offered a roster spot. Maybe even while the game was going on. Who knows?

He has a shot of being the #1 in Denver. For the Saints to keep him they would have needed to release a player off the 53 man roster and THEN pay him more than what the Broncos offered. We might think it sucks, but it is how the practice squad game is played.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 07:24 AM

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Once again, Nick Underhill with some great insight. By the way, the Broncos, according to Spotrac, have the 6th most 2022 cap space available. They can easily offer him more than we have available for the entire remaining season.


Rugby Saint II 10-04-2022 09:18 AM

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We are still shooting ourseves in the foot. Gotta' reload now before we run out of bullets. It's a long hunting season with seventeen games now.

neugey 10-04-2022 09:48 AM

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But we saw him first *crying*

NOLA54 10-04-2022 10:28 AM

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And we wonder why we can't win!

Sinner 10-04-2022 11:13 AM

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Wait. WHAT?!?!? We have a "MANAGEMENT" Problem. PERIOD.

leilung 10-04-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 960080)
We are still shooting ourseves in the foot. Gotta' reload now before we run out of bullets. It's a long hunting season with seventeen games now.

...and we still have some toes left! :brood:

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 11:54 AM

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Murray didn't want to stay with the Saints. He had the opportunity and tuned it down to go where he could become the RB1.


Cruize 10-04-2022 12:47 PM

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Unless he wanted to leave and the Saints simply honored his request, it doesn't make sense. Kamara and Ingram are constantly injured. Murray was a big reason the Saints were even in the game vs. the Vikings. The NFL is going to bust the Saints for tanking for a high........2nd rd pick. 😁

neugey 10-04-2022 12:49 PM

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The NFL practice squad logistics are messing with my head. I keep thinking it should be like MLB where there's no way for another team to claim a player unless he's put on waivers. I didn't realize there was this "limbo" state for players called up from practice squad to still be obtained.

dizzle88 10-04-2022 01:05 PM

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Remember a few years ago that Murray came up for extension and the Saints wouldn't meet the figure he requested, so he was cut.

Murray evidently knows the business and used the last game as springboard, I can't really fault him. He was better than Ingram and was never really compensated accordingly.

bobdog86 10-04-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 960099)
Remember a few years ago that Murray came up for extension and the Saints wouldn't meet the figure he requested, so he was cut.

Murray evidently knows the business and used the last game as springboard, I can't really fault him. He was better than Ingram and was never really compensated accordingly.

We have neglected him on numerous occasions……good for him, hope he has a great season. Don’t blame him one bit. Our loss, it’s better we keep our perennial back ups and no names on the roster

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 960099)
Remember a few years ago that Murray came up for extension and the Saints wouldn't meet the figure he requested, so he was cut.

Murray evidently knows the business and used the last game as springboard, I can't really fault him. He was better than Ingram and was never really compensated accordingly.

It was really a matter of timing. Had the Broncos not lost their RB1 to a season ending injury on Sunday, Murray would have likely still been on the Saints practice squad. Murray would have been foolish to turn down any Denver offer since he could make far more than the Saints could offer him as a backup to Kamara. As it was he did turn down an offer from the Saints to leave. I'm curious as to what his contract is going to look like. Denver has among the most cap space available in the league.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 960100)
We have neglected him on numerous occasions……good for him, hope he has a great season. Don’t blame him one bit. Our loss, it’s better we keep our perennial back ups and no names on the roster

Don't forget any team in the league could have signed him last week. He wasn't even looked at by the other 31 teams as a backup until AFTER the Saints picked him up.

bobdog86 10-04-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960102)
Don't forget any team in the league could have signed him last week. He wasn't even looked at by the other 31 teams as a backup until AFTER the Saints picked him up.

So, what’s your point? He’s on to another team, and your still trying create a discussion that’s moot…….

TheOak 10-04-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960102)
Don't forget any team in the league could have signed him last week. He wasn't even looked at by the other 31 teams as a backup until AFTER the Saints picked him up.

Negative. He wasn't looked at until he performed.

K Major 10-04-2022 03:05 PM

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Guess LTrain didn't fumble enough for the Saint's taste ...

I kid, I kid.


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Boston Saint 10-04-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 960105)
So, what’s your point? He’s on to another team, and your still trying create a discussion that’s moot…….


AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 960105)
So, what’s your point? He’s on to another team, and your still trying create a discussion that’s moot…….

My point is that the discussion was moot. Murray made a decision to go to the Broncos. Any discussion over what the Saints did or didn't do doesn't matter.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 960106)
Negative. He wasn't looked at until he performed.

This is true. Had he stunk it up he wouldn't have been looked at.

WW_Who_Dat 10-04-2022 06:19 PM

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2 weeks ago the the Saints were the only team to have brought him in for a workout … the only team.

How can you sign him to a 3 year contract to be at best a number 2 running back. Raving because LM had 57 yds on 11 Carries. Mark at 10 Carrie’s for 58 yds last week and yeah he did fumble again but Mark has never fumble more once in any of his previous season.

Again with the rules in place other teams had the ability to sign a guy elevated from practice up until Tuesday at 3:00 PM central time. In the end LM choose the best deal for him personally …

BakoSaint 10-04-2022 07:13 PM

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If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers.

TheOak 10-05-2022 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 960130)
If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers.

He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future.

Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice.

BakoSaint 10-05-2022 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 960135)
He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future.

Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice.

I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.

AsylumGuido 10-05-2022 12:54 PM

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Rugby Saint II 10-05-2022 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960163)

This is what I keep thinking too.

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Time to restock the practice squad and hopefully not need them.


saintsfan1976 10-12-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 960157)
I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.

For the same reason 32 other teams didn't put him on their rosters.

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 03:22 PM

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The aforementioned replacement for Tony Jones Jr. on the practice squad is Jordan Howard. I hope we don't ever need to use him and if we do I hope he's great.


AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 04:12 PM

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SmashMouth 10-12-2022 04:32 PM

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So Abram Smith isn't available ? Thought he had potential...

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 960790)
So Abram Smith isn't available ? Thought he had potential...

He's out there unsigned. I think the fumble issues cost him bigtime in the preseason. He had a tryout with the Texans a couple of weeks ago, but they didn't pick him up.


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