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Rell&Gold 10-10-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960630)
I'm reading a lot of dogging of the Saints secondary here, but one must give Geno Smith a ton of credit. He made several great throws in which the defender had no chance to make a play. Some passes just cannot be defended.

Just a couple here.

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...38263244967937

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...43564144775168

Great throws nonetheless both of those passes can be defended better. Adebo was bad all game. He was never in position to defend those passes. That would be a bit different if good defense better throw were the case it's not with adebo just better throw

saintsfan1976 10-10-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960600)
- Once again, Dalton looked serviceable, but at this point of his career is clearly just a backup. He doesn't appear to be able to make an explosive throw downfield like Winston.

- Taysom is a monster and perfectly suited for the role he is currently playing. Finally mixing in the pass was overdue, but adds the threat as someone mentioned earlier.

- Kamara is a difference maker. We need him in the game badly.

- Seahawks fans were gracious in the loss and just wanted to head to Bourbon to drown their sorrows.

- Geno Smith showed why he was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week last week. He looked big and looked to move well and was extremely accurate on those two deep TD throws.

- The defensive front looked very solid in stopping all but one run and put great pressure on Smith when called upon.

- The Saints came out on top on two very close calls, the Metcalf "fumble" and the Olave "TD". Those have in the past have commonly gone against us.

- Opening drive. Once again the offense marches right down the field on scripted plays and then stalls in the red zone on conservative play calling with what appeared to be from the far end of the field two right tackle dive plays for two and three yards. Dalton then misses Olave on a short pass to end the drive.

- Injuries are plaguing the whole league right now. Harty and Olave both go down, but so did Penny for the Seahawks. I can't remember this many injuries this early throughout the league.

- It was nice leaving the Dome a winner and the crowd was alive as it has been in a couple of years. A win is a win!

- Penalties looked more under control with only six on the day, half of what Seattle managed to commit.

- Gillikin is human with that late shank at a key time of the game. He looked disgusted while leaving the field.

- Thought the offensive line did a good job of protecting Dalton and run blocking. Only one sack given up and a season high 235 yards on the ground.

- Can't wait to get players back for the Cincy game next week. Expecting obnoxious LSU fans in the seats pulling for Burrow. Also expecting to see him on the ground a half a dozen times.

:bng:


This offense didn't need an explosive throw to win yesterday. Besides that's farther down the list behind things like bonehead turnovers, bonehead penalties, bonehead missed assignments and bonehead luck.

Yes, more Taysom. Like the combo with Dalton better than Jameis.

We made Geno look better than he is and the rest of this season will show it.

Curious to see Ruiz evaluation after this game. From my couch, hard to see but man was there a ton of pressure on Dalton.

Boston Saint 10-10-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 960638)

We made Geno look better than he is and the rest of this season will show it.

Gotta see what happens here 76. Geno, I believe, had set a record for highest completion % over 4 games in NFL history. The put up 40+ the week before. I’m not saying Geno is a great/good player, but throwing to those WRs had been working for them. I pointed that out before the game and Guido shut me down.

AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 960641)
Gotta see what happens here 76. Geno, I believe, had set a record for highest completion % over 4 games in NFL history. The put up 40+ the week before. I’m not saying Geno is a great/good player, but throwing to those WRs had been working for them. I pointed that out before the game and Guido shut me down.

Nobody shuts you down, Boston. You are unstoppable. B&G's very own Taysom! :D

But, you were correct, Boston. Given the second chance it looks like Geno may have resurrected his career.

AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 03:18 PM

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Agree with Allen here. It was easily the best crowd I've seen in the Dome in the past couple of years. They were fully invested in the game from start to finish.


Boston Saint 10-10-2022 03:23 PM

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Sorry. double post

dizzle88 10-10-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960630)

Look at Tyrann just standing there watching.

I was perhaps a bit too hard on Marcus Williams at times, because he's 5 times the player Tyrann is.

AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 960649)
Look at Tyrann just standing there watching.

I was perhaps a bit too hard on Marcus Williams at times, because he's 5 times the player Tyrann is.

Yeah, watching Gray and Evans, the two deep safeties who should be responsible for support.

AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 03:47 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 04:43 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-10-2022 05:19 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-11-2022 09:17 AM

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Rugby Saint II 10-11-2022 09:35 AM

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#7 is our(not so secret)secret weapon. I heard that Payton called the front office and asked how they liked Hills' contract now. I don't know if it's true or not but it's definitely funny. :p

AsylumGuido 10-11-2022 05:43 PM

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This here. It may be hard for some to accept, but ...


K Major 10-11-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960715)
This here. It may be hard for some to accept, but ...

https://twitter.com/RosvoglouReport/...49025436258306

Smdh.

He’s doing what he is SUPPOSED to do :brood:

Good for Ruiz. It’s year three.

Bring it EVERY WEEK.

AsylumGuido 10-11-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 960720)
Smdh.

He’s doing what he is SUPPOSED to do :brood:

Good for Ruiz. It’s year three.

Bring it EVERY WEEK.

It only matters what he's doing now and in the future. At least to those not living in the past, I suppose.

saintsfan1976 10-11-2022 07:11 PM

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LOL

Ruiz plays "at least serviceable...and a little bit more" and you drop a a twitter post like it's supposed to change the fact that he's severely underperformed expectation...

C'mon man.

AsylumGuido 10-11-2022 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 960726)
LOL

Ruiz plays "at least serviceable...and a little bit more" and you drop a a twitter post like it's supposed to change the fact that he's severely underperformed expectation...

C'mon man.

Positivity, my friend. Give it a try. It might help you sleep at night. :D

saintsfan1976 10-12-2022 08:45 AM

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Positivity, my friend. Give it a try. It might help you sleep at night. :D

I'm positive Ruiz is not the guy you're willing him to be.

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 960737)
I'm positive Ruiz is not the guy you're willing him to be.

I'm only "willing" Ruiz to be a solid starting RG that stays healthy. That's rare these days not only for the Saints, but for the entire league itself. It has been said many times before that one of the most important abilities for a player to possess in today's NFL is availability. If he develops into an All Pro, so much the better.

saintsfan1976 10-12-2022 10:54 AM

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The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best.

No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped.

If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often...

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 960759)
The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best.

No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped.

If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often...

No doubt we all hope he turns out to be something special. But the NFL is made up of offensive linemen that are at best less than serviceable. And it appears that a solid percentage of those are currently on IR.

Oh, and I don't feel I promote Ruiz any more than any other Saints player. I simply share every article or interesting mention, just like with any other Saints player, NOT completely behind a paywall.

By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 11:32 AM

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AsylumGuido 10-12-2022 11:44 AM

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AsylumGuido 10-13-2022 11:26 AM

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Cam Jordan gain a half sack from the Seattle game.


SaintFanInATLHELL 10-13-2022 03:09 PM

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By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust.

So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others?

SFIAH

Boston Saint 10-13-2022 04:19 PM

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By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

Did the guy who starts each year predicting an undefeated season just use the world “realistically”??!! 😝



Rell&Gold 10-13-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 960564)
I respect your opinion.
However, I'm of the opinion that he can be a starting QB if used properly, not Pete's vanilla play calling, but a dynamic offense designed for Taysom's strengths & run-threat.
The dude trained to be a TE this season and so far he's been our most effective QB, and still gets labeled as a gadget?... ok, whatever.

Andy has been the most effective QB. Taysom was Taysom Hill AK Olave did what they do as well as Trequan.

Boston Saint 10-13-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 960852)
Andy has been the most effective QB. Taysom was Taysom Hill AK Olave did what they do as well as Trequan.

Even if an effective, lasting offense could be designed and implemented for Hill I don’t think he’d stay healthy enough to run it. He can be feature for 1/3 of the game, but won’t last full time under center.

AsylumGuido 10-14-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 960850)
Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust.

So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others?

SFIAH

Yup. Under that criteria all but two or three 1st rounders every year are a bust.

AsylumGuido 10-14-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 960851)
Did the guy who starts each year predicting an undefeated season just use the world “realistically”??!! 😝


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

Realistically speaking, I go into every game expecting the Saints to win. Sometimes circumstances arise that interfere with that expected outcome. Yet, since I have that individual game expectation does it not make sense that I have the same expectation for the sum of those games on a season long basis? As in with individual games sometimes circumstances arise that interfere, however.

Boston Saint 10-14-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 960858)
Realistically speaking, I go into every game expecting the Saints to win. Sometimes circumstances arise that interfere with that expected outcome. Yet, since I have that individual game expectation does it not make sense that I have the same expectation for the sum of those games on a season long basis? As in with individual games sometimes circumstances arise that interfere, however.

Zzzzzzzzz

jnormand 10-14-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 960865)
Zzzzzzzzz

I think someone has the word “expectation” confused with the word “hope.” I don’t expect to win a million dollars every time I scratch a lotto ticket. I’d drive myself crazy.

AsylumGuido 10-14-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 960867)
I think someone has the word “expectation” confused with the word “hope.” I don’t expect to win a million dollars every time I scratch a lotto ticket. I’d drive myself crazy.

They are closely related, yet different. Hope is wishing for or optimism about something in the future. I would hope we all have "hope" when it comes to the Saints. For me that is a given. Expectation is a strong belief in something in the future. I also have an expectation that they will win each week. They are talented enough to beat any other team in any given week. I honestly believe the Saints teams over the last couple of decades can and will win as the ball is kicked off each and every week. I am, of course, disappointed when that does not happen. Not pissed off, simply disappointed.

Also, to be honest, that wasn't the expectation for much of the first 25-30 of following my Saints. The hope has always been there, but there wasn't the same expectations I have felt most recently.

AsylumGuido 10-14-2022 10:16 AM

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As long as we have both Kamara and Taysom healthy and running the ball I feel like our offense can be good enough to beat anyone. Anything we get with the passing game is just gravy.


Rugby Saint II 10-14-2022 03:13 PM

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Every team misses in the draft. Some franchises miss more than others. There is risk involved but Jeff Ireland increased our winning percentage dramatically when he came on board. He's great with defensive backs. O-linemen? Not so much.


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