Boston Saint

Do you think it’s Allen’s choice running man to man or is it the co defensive coordinators making that call?

dizzle88

Excellent point on the man to man stuff.
In London, Marshon was getting worked by Jefferson, which to be honest isn't a knock on Latt, because Jefferson is playing at an extremely high level.
But it's on DA to notice that and not leave Latt on an island.
Although I'm kind of lost, because the Seahawks still managed to score a TD to Lockett when throwing into quadruple coverage.

I think a lot of attitude in that secondary is missing and without getting into the reasons for trades / non-extended contracts, I think we are badly missing Marcus Williams and CGJ.

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AsylumGuido

Murray "threw up the deuces" for one reason and one reason only ... the chance to be the #1 RB for an NFL team that has been decimated by injury at RB. That is not the case with the Saints.

AsylumGuido

Thanks, rez, for pointing that out. Mathieu seems to catch the flack for any breakdown in the secondary by some fans. Without knowing exactly what coverage has been called it is near impossible for the casual fan to know where blame lies. Even the guys that do the PFF grading give that as a caveat to their scores. They can only make an educated guess at fault on some plays without knowing the actual designated responsible party on coverage or blocking.

rezburna

It’s probably a mix of both. He seemed more adept at making adjustments when he was the coordinator. Now I will say we don’t have the best zone corners, but we gotta do what we gotta do when you’re going against a guy like Jett.

K Major

And good for him. LTrain deserves more opportunities from his OC.

He’s never had opportunities here while avg over 4 yard per carry.

Saints force feed (MI) who can’t produce.

The offense is stale & anyone who can’t see that need to take off the black and gold blinders 🤡.

rezburna

Real stale.

Boston Saint

I think injuries may (both preseason and since game 1) have played a part in this rez. Kamara has been hurt and missed games. So have our top WRs. Oline too. I’m just hoping that the healthy team we want to have on the field would exploit these matchups more. When you are short handed, scrambling for your life and throwing to Smith it’s hard to manage. Just a thought.

BakoSaint

If we win the Superbowl or even pull off a big upset / beat a top contender in the playoffs I am fine with keeping Allen. If we even make the playoffs at all, even if we are blown out in the first round, I don't think keeping Allen is a terrible idea, though I would prefer not keep him, as long as we don't trade more future draft picks or lead the league in 2024 projected over the cap to go all in win now with Allen. But I don't think any of those things will happen. I would put our odds of making the playoffs at 1 in 10, our odds of an impressive playoff run at 1 in 100, and Superbowl at 1 in 500. When we don't make the playoffs, or when we are eliminate from the playoffs mid season, I want Allen gone. He came in 8-28 so he needed to prove that was an aberration, another losing record proved the opposite. I highly disagree that he came in with a much more challenging situation than the other coaches in the article, he came to a team that maxed out the cap and future draft picks to win now, had a winning record, and won the division 3 of the last 4 years, on a team where he was already familiar with all the staff. He came in with a much better situation than many other coaches in some ways and he blew it. And if you argue that no he came into an extremely challenging situation, then Loomis created that situation. If you argue its challenging because of Paytons shadow, I think thats BS because Steve Young, George Seifert, Barry Switzer, Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin, etc have dealt with shadows just fine and the shadow of 28-3 seems worse to me.

Blaming injuries is BS. We have one of the oldest rosters in the league. We retained and added players we know have nursed injuries for years. Thomas has been injured 2 years. Landry was cheap due to injuries. Winston was injured last year. Maye had injury and suspension history. Peat is frequently injured. Taysom is not allowed on a public beach or swimming pool per signage. And Loomis and Allen traded our depth at a need position because they could not coach a player that every other coach has been able to coach. I kind of think we covet injury and suspension prone players because we look at collecting excuses as a form of insurance.

Ultimately if coordinators and assistant coaches are making bad calls and unfavorable matchups that falls on Allen to correct. That is why his title is head coach not 'everything except offense, defense, and special teams coach.' He is performing like the latter is his title.

We could not easily be 5-0 or whatever. Our 2 wins were closer games than some of our losses and we could more easily be 0-5. And this was the easy part of our schedule, its about to get rough. It is hubris to call Atlanta and Carolina inferior teams to us. One has the same record as us and almost beat us, the other has one more loss than us but beat us head to head and has had a tougher schedule. Both have journeymen first round busts as starting QB and neither has had to turn to their 'why not give it a try' backup like we have yet. They are our peers, except they know they need to rebuild while we think we are going to go route Green Bay, Philly, Dallas, Tampa, SF, etc and win the Super Bowl with Andy Dalton and an oline with 3 scrubs.

So yeah, if Allen makes the playoffs great, keep him. If Trequan Smith averages 50 yards receiving and 60% catch rate point forward keep him. If Cesar Ruiz grades out as an average NFL guard and looks the part keep him. If Taysom Hill can string together 1000 total yards without an injury for his $10 million a year salary keep him. If the draft pick the Eagles get from us is 20th and we clean up the cap this offseason so we are mid-league in over the cap numbers for 2024 keep Loomis. But none of that is happening.

AsylumGuido

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