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AsylumGuido 10-17-2022 03:39 PM

Injury Report - Week 7 - Saints @ Cardinals
 

AsylumGuido 10-17-2022 03:40 PM

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Boston Saint 10-17-2022 03:42 PM

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Damn. The team hasn’t been out this many players since the Miami COVID game!

K Major 10-17-2022 03:51 PM

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Just in case anyone missed it ...

Lattimore, Landry & Michael Thomas are likely out for Thursday. Trautman is questionable at best.

Source - Jeff Duncan

K Major 10-17-2022 03:55 PM

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It's probably best to put Michael Thomas on IR.

Honestly, I'd be surprised to see him play again in 2022.

Boston Saint 10-17-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961128)
It's probably best to put Michael Thomas on IR.

Honestly, I'd be surprised to see him play again in 2022.

Assuming you are correct, what advantage does putting him on IR give the team? Is there a roster spot involved. Honestly wondering Major.

AsylumGuido 10-17-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961128)
It's probably best to put Michael Thomas on IR.

Honestly, I'd be surprised to see him play again in 2022.

According to Kat Terrell they decided NOT to put Thomas on IR three weeks ago when they determined it was projected to be a four week recovery time therefore it had to have been a grade two turf toe. She said they said they wanted to keep him active just in case he could return earlier. Four weeks will be this next weekend. His targeted return should be the Raiders game in week 8 according to that timetable.

Why put him on IR now when he should be nearing the projected recovery time for that injury?

:confused:

K Major 10-17-2022 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961129)
Assuming you are correct, what advantage does putting him on IR give the team? Is there a roster spot involved. Honestly wondering Major.

The Saints could use O-line help (Peat could be out again) &/or depth as well as adding another veteran WR. I'm not sure how severe MT turf toe is but that could take months to recover from if not longer.

We are needing healthy contributors on the roster badly.

K Major 10-17-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961130)
According to Kat Terrell they decided NOT to put Thomas on IR three weeks ago when they determined it was projected to be a four week recovery time therefore it had to have been a grade two turf toe. She said they said they wanted to keep him active just in case he could return earlier. Four weeks will be this next weekend. His targeted return should be the Raiders game in week 8 according to that timetable.

Why put him on IR now when he should be nearing the projected recovery time for that injury?

:confused:

Ok "nearing a projected recover time" :rolleyes:

Just like some were reporting that Landry, MT & Olave would quite "possibly" be back for the Cincy game.

If you expect him back by the Raiders game, go right ahead with that thought process. 99.9% of us aren't holding our breath on the availability of Mike Thomas anymore.

The Saints are decimated by injuries & it could get worse.

Practice squad guys & 4th, and 5th stringers are a recipe for an L on Sundays.

AsylumGuido 10-17-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961131)
The Saints could use O-line help (Peat could be out again) &/or depth as well as adding another veteran WR. I'm not sure how severe MT turf toe is but that could take months to recover from if not longer.

We are needing healthy contributors on the roster badly.

Yes, it could take months IF it was a grade three injury. The fact they said the original timetable was only four weeks indicates it is a grade two. Had it been a grade three he would have undoubtedly been placed on the IR right away.

AsylumGuido 10-17-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961132)
Ok "nearing a projected recover time" :rolleyes:

Just like some were reporting that Landry, MT & Olave would quite "possibly" be back for the Cincy game.

If you expect him back by the Raiders game, go right ahead with that thought process. 99.9% of us aren't holding our breath on the availability of Mike Thomas anymore.

The Saints are decimated by injuries & it could get worse.

Practice squad guys & 4th, and 5th stringers are a recipe for an L on Sundays.

No crap. One would think that bringing back arguably the best ingredient on the roster (Thomas) would be the very best recipe to replace those 4th and 5th stringers.

K Major 10-17-2022 04:30 PM

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FYI, Andy Dalton has a back injury.

Per Nick Underhill.

Ice up AD.

Rugby Saint II 10-18-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961135)
FYI, Andy Dalton has a back injury.

Per Nick Underhill.

Ice up AD.

When you get older things go out on you easier. It is definitely harder to stay on the field and contribute when you've got a bad back. It's hard to get up off the couch much less evading defensive linemen or blitzers and twisting your body to throw a tight spiral.

iceshack149 10-18-2022 10:50 AM

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For what it's worth...

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New Orleans Saints Are Waiving Wide Receiver Just Coming Off A Suspension


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The NFL is and always has been a tough business.
The Saints have waived WR Kawaan Baker, who just finished a 6-game suspension. The Chiefs have waived DB Dicaprio Bootle.
Baker was a seventh-round pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. He was told before the 2022 season began that he was getting suspended for six games.
Baker will now go on waivers where teams will have a chance to claim him. If he goes unclaimed the Saints have the opportunity to re-sign him to the practice squad.

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints-are-waiving-wide-receiver-just-coming-off-a-suspension

mapcow 10-18-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961130)
According to Kat Terrell they decided NOT to put Thomas on IR three weeks ago when they determined it was projected to be a four week recovery time therefore it had to have been a grade two turf toe. She said they said they wanted to keep him active just in case he could return earlier. Four weeks will be this next weekend. His targeted return should be the Raiders game in week 8 according to that timetable.

Why put him on IR now when he should be nearing the projected recovery time for that injury?

:confused:

Put the prima donna out to pasture with my cow. grade 2 turf toe; grade a milk.... lmao. Thomas is gone.:dunce: All That Money... just sitting the bench and scratching his ass.

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-18-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 961166)
Put the prima donna out to pasture with my cow. grade 2 turf toe; grade a milk.... lmao. Thomas is gone.:dunce: All That Money... just sitting the bench and scratching his ass.

I really don't understand your thinking. Are you upset with MT13 because he in injured? Or instead do you think he's not actually injured and just doesn't want to play?

It seems like in Mapcow world that the team should never invest any money into any player ever. Players like Cam Jordan are unicorns. Each and every player in the NFL is subject to injury. Injuries that will keep them out of games. Even the most talented get injured. But you have to pay the talented to stay.

So, are you saying that the Saints should become a farm team? That they draft talented rookies, work them on rookie contracts, then let them all go to free agency?

I mean Lattimore is injured too. Should we get rid of him too?

Explain it to me like I'm 5, please.

SFIAH

K Major 10-18-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 961163)
When you get older things go out on you easier. It is definitely harder to stay on the field and contribute when you've got a bad back. It's hard to get up off the couch much less evading defensive linemen or blitzers and twisting your body to throw a tight spiral.

It's not about his age, it's about what's not protecting him upfront. Saints o line has collectively performed below average up to this point.

And some people wonder why Winston has been playing injured :rolleyes:.

AsylumGuido 10-18-2022 05:14 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-18-2022 05:15 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-18-2022 05:20 PM

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AsylumGuido 10-19-2022 09:09 AM

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iceshack149 10-19-2022 09:46 AM

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Saints designate Alontae Taylor to return IR; sign Jake Luton to practice squad
The Saints designated rookie defensive back
Alontae Taylor
to return from injured reserve. He returned to practice Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...b10cb039f6a938
:bng:

K Major 10-19-2022 10:00 AM

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Andrus Peat. :rolleyes: An average player who is ALWAYS injured.

And some folks were ragging on Terron Armstead.

Peat is a guy you simply can't count on in those trenches.

AsylumGuido 10-19-2022 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961228)
Andrus Peat. :rolleyes: An average player who is ALWAYS injured.

And some folks were ragging on Terron Armstead.

Peat is a guy you simply can't count on in those trenches.

Welcome to 2022 NFL football. I've never seen so many offensive linemen injured across the entire league. It's unreal. Points per game scored is at a 13 year low. And that's with all of the new rules favoring the offense.

Boston Saint 10-19-2022 10:33 AM

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There may be something said to the idea that when you practice hard you get stronger. I know when I go out and do an activity that I rarely do I get sore. So when I go out and play softball, or the Friday after Thanksgiving football game, or JetSki, I’m very sore afterwards. I probably would not be that way if I did any of those activities on a regular basis.

That may carry over to the highest level of athletics like these NFL football players are. When you cut preseason to three games it matters. When you practice at three-quarter power it matters. That’s to speak nothing of the Continuity that is necessary to keep an efficient offense going.

K Major 10-19-2022 10:38 AM

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AG, this isn't a 2022 new thang for Andrus Peat.

In 8 seasons, has he played entire season? The answer is most likely NO. Someone reported he's been on season ending IR 3 out of 5 years.

Some of these guys need to hang around Malcolm Jenkins, Demario or Cam Jordan a little more.

Peat is an average & inconsistent player who can't stay healthy.

Boston Saint 10-19-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961231)
AG, this isn't a 2022 new thang for Andrus Peat.

In 8 seasons, has he played entire season? The answer is most likely NO. Someone reported he's been on season ending IR 3 out of 5 years.

Some of these guys need to hang around Malcolm Jenkins, Demario or Cam Jordan a little more.

Peat is an average & inconsistent player who can't stay healthy.

He’s Davenport on the OLine.

iceshack149 10-19-2022 11:07 AM

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Saints Injury Roundup: Marcus Maye Upgraded, Others Stay Same on Tuesday

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Alontae Taylor was out there after tweeting 'ready coach' yesterday. Payton Turner was also out there, while Calvin Throckmorton was taking left guard snaps. Andy Dalton was taking primary reps at quarterback.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...2e4a50913b4b89

iceshack149 10-19-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961233)
He’s Davenport on the OLine.

I'd guess that you're referring to his injury history and not his talent?

If not:
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AsylumGuido 10-19-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961231)
AG, this isn't a 2022 new thang for Andrus Peat.

In 8 seasons, has he played entire season? The answer is most likely NO. Someone reported he's been on season ending IR 3 out of 5 years.

Some of these guys need to hang around Malcolm Jenkins, Demario or Cam Jordan a little more.

Peat is an average & inconsistent player who can't stay healthy.

I agree. I'm just pointing out that this is becoming quite common across the league. It's happening with other common players. It's happening to career backups. It's happening to All Pros. Not sure why, but what can anyone do about it other than rolling with the punches?

However, you sound like you are saying this is something that they are doing wrong and they can somehow "learn" not to get injured. Injuries happen. I doubt you are more pissed off about it than is the player themselves. I get your frustration, but as Boston mentioned somewhere recently, **** happens.

mapcow 10-19-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 961177)
I really don't understand your thinking. Are you upset with MT13 because he in injured? Or instead do you think he's not actually injured and just doesn't want to play?

It seems like in Mapcow world that the team should never invest any money into any player ever. Players like Cam Jordan are unicorns. Each and every player in the NFL is subject to injury. Injuries that will keep them out of games. Even the most talented get injured. But you have to pay the talented to stay.

So, are you saying that the Saints should become a farm team? That they draft talented rookies, work them on rookie contracts, then let them all go to free agency?

I mean Lattimore is injured too. Should we get rid of him too?

Explain it to me like I'm 5, please.

SFIAH

The prima donna has not played a full season with his team in 3 years....get rid of him. his injury is suspect, but convenient....Simple:dunce: As for Lattimore... he is inconsistent

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-19-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 961238)
The prima donna has not played a full season with his team in 3 years....get rid of him. his injury is suspect, but convenient....Simple:dunce: As for Lattimore... he is inconsistent

Still doesn't clarify. We have many players who haven't played a full season in 3 years. Are they all prima donnas? Do we get rid of all of them?

Lattimore is inconsistent. So, do we not pay him and let him go to free agency?

I understand that you want more value and more production from players. What I don't understand is what to do when you don't (or more likely can't) get the players you seem to be wanting.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 10-19-2022 04:03 PM

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It looks like the Cardinals will be minus their starting left guard and center. And also their starting OLB. Not to mention Hollywood Brown.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfdcgvvW...jpg&name=large

AsylumGuido 10-19-2022 05:59 PM

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Just to give an idea of what some other teams are going through with injuries ... the Ravens had 13 players listed as DNP today.

Brutal on many rosters.


BakoSaint 10-19-2022 11:56 PM

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The Ravens gave some veterans a rest day. We are missing multiple key starters who came into the season with injury histories that optimists said did not matter. Our injury issues are not an accident. We covet and reward injury prone players. We are one of the oldest teams in the league. We stay old through multiple Loomis strategies. We frequently trade multiple draft picks for one so that while most teams gain 7 young players each draft we gain 3-4. We let healthy players go in their prime then resign them when they are old and washed up thinking they are the same player.

If Michael Thomas gets healthy and performs we should trade him while we can. If he doesnt we should cut him this offseason and pray he signs with a division rival.

We also play on artificial turf and have lousy doctors.

Injuries beget injuries. When you have an old team with many brittle starters and one goes down it forces others into new assignments and unfamiliar roles and breaks down protection, leading to more injuries, making the newly injured players more subject to injury in the future.

mapcow 10-20-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 961243)
Still doesn't clarify. We have many players who haven't played a full season in 3 years. Are they all prima donnas? Do we get rid of all of them?

Lattimore is inconsistent. So, do we not pay him and let him go to free agency?

I understand that you want more value and more production from players. What I don't understand is what to do when you don't (or more likely can't) get the players you seem to be wanting.

SFIAH

simple... prima donna has not done squat for the saints for quite a while now....we should have gotten rid of him 3 years ago when he failed to stay healthy....move on... get somebody that wants to play and win.... fire him....:dunce:

iceshack149 10-20-2022 10:06 AM

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Trading Michael Thomas at this point is the worst idea.

The man was breaking records and got a huge contract to reflect his output on the field. After the contract, he suffers multiple injuries that prevent him from getting back on the field. The Saints would get very little in trade value for him and still have to spend millions on a contract for a guy that isn't even on the team.

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 961276)
Trading Michael Thomas at this point is the worst idea.

The man was breaking records and got a huge contract to reflect his output on the field. After the contract, he suffers multiple injuries that prevent him from getting back on the field. The Saints would get very little in trade value for him and still have to spend millions on a contract for a guy that isn't even on the team.

Not to mention he is still leading the team in TD receptions this season and should have plenty more as soon as he returns.

K Major 10-20-2022 10:50 AM

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BakoSaint and WillSaint have almost identical writing styles…

🤔

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 961281)
BakoSaint and WillSaint have almost identical writing styles…

🤔

I know that Will(*insert team name here*)81 had been kicked off that other site just as Bako claims he had, but I don't remember Will***81 posting expansive run-on paragraphs of illogical gibberish. Most of his were 40 words or less. The negativity was on par, however.


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