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In all fairness please don’t lump all people that have issues with Thomas in the same “pissed in their cheerios” group shawnk. Their are the extreme views like bako’s, but then their are those like me that have no problem with him being on the team and really would like him to be on the field playing, but have legitimate issues with some of his past actions and descisions and wonder if there is carryover.

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What is extreme about my view that a player that has only played 10 of his teams last 40 games cannot be relied on to produce consistently in the future? What is extreme about feeling his not answering Paytons calls, delaying surgery, fighting teammates, and posting cryptic tweets is negative? Are those all positives? I dont hate the guy. I don’t think he can control the injuries. In fact I think the opposite. He can’t control them. So generally a player who misses 30 of 40 games is probably not going to ever be the same. Its how hundreds of careers end for every one career that bounces back. Relying on Michael Thomas is the extreme view. Moving on is the realistic one.

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Blah, blah, blah.

:rolleyes:

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In other words, they feel that he "pissed in their Cheerios". I believe that's exactly what shawnky's talking about.

Personally, any player can piss in my cheerios as long as he comes back and and puts up three TD's every two games. Then again. I don't eat cereal.

:D

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Blah blah blah blah

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And just because you feel that way, doesn't mean others have to also.

I'm one of the ones thats annoyed at the lack of availability from Thomas over the past few years. When a large portion of our cap, is going to a guy thats missed 30 games over the past 2.5 years, I think it's more than acceptable for fans to not be best pleased about that.

Especially when he's a player that could really help this team.
I thought he was a lock for the hall of fame before that contract, now I'm wondering if he'll ever be available for a run of games.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm pissed that he hasn't been available, as well. But, the big difference is that I am not pissed at him at all like others seem to be. I am pissed at the "football gods" and the rash of bad luck.

It is not the player's fault that he is injured. Anyone would be a fool that believed that he isn't wanting to be on the field right now more than they are wishing for the same. Don't believe that he hasn't blamed those same "football gods" for screwing him over.

I am pissed that Brees got injured when he did. I am pissed that any of our players get injured. But I am never pissed at the player themselves for something that they cannot prevent.

That's also what pisses me off. Others directing their piss-off-ness at the wrong target.

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Just really noticed this. What does his contract have to do with any of this? His contract is pedestrian compared to other WR's now. Contracts are driven by the cap, which is in turn driven by the broadcast deals. He was producing as the best WR in the entire league. There's no reason why his contract should be an issue.

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Nope, you've misconstrued what I meant.

When I say before that contract, I'm saying that soon after he got that contract, he then started having injury issues and has missed a ton of games since.

So I thought he was a lock for the hall of fame before the injuries / the new contract.

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1. Coaching
2. Injuries
3. Left side of the offensive line.
4. Lack of a consistent pass rush.

I don’t identify a lack of talent on the roster…just a lack of availability and the inability to utilize the talent effectively. How they haven’t realized Taysom Hill is always the answer in the red zone is beyond me. Why Shaheed hasn’t played more offense is something I can’t answer. They actually have the speed with Olave, Shaheed, and Kevin White to really gash teams with rub routes and double moves. Do we see it? Nah.