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Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by BakoSaint I disagree. NFL teams are worth $5 billion now. I am not an accountant but my rough understanding of net present value and cash flow is that if something is worth $5 billion, probably the next ...

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Old 11-03-2022, 07:23 PM   #1
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Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job

Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
I disagree. NFL teams are worth $5 billion now. I am not an accountant but my rough understanding of net present value and cash flow is that if something is worth $5 billion, probably the next 7 or so years of it are at least half that value due to the time value of money, and the next 1 year is probably about 10%. So the privilege of owning and NFL team for the 2023 season is worth maybe $500 million based on what people are willing to pay to own one indefinitely. Just like you if you leased a new car you might pay 10% of its value to lease it for a year or something. So I disagree with the idea that an owner would wait a year to sign Sean Payton, if they really wanted him, to save a couple draft picks. If they have a coach they don't have faith in, throwing away another year with that coach is very costly in terms of the time value of money. Also they run many risks. The coach they lack faith in may have a lucky year that makes him hard to fire. There may be a scandal or controversy that makes him hard to fire. Sean may take a liking to broadcasting with an extra year. Another team may seize the moment and change Seans mind and make him an offer he can't refuse. Or they may have to fire the existing coach and then a new coach or new mid year interim coach catches fire and they can't let him go without his joining a lawsuit or something. Just like this year McCarthy may be doing too well to fire. We don't know what happens next year. Maybe Andy Reid retires and sure Sean Payton loved the situation in San Diego but suddenly he is offered Maholmes and sees that as more of a sure thing to cement his legacy as the first coach to win a ring with two teams. Maybe Hebert chokes in the playoffs or gets hurt. If a team wants Sean, there is much more value and certainty for them to get him now than to wait 2 years and get him in 2025 because thats a long long long time and that owner may die of a stroke or see Payton coaching the Patriots before its 2025. You don't become a billionaire so you can still patiently wait to pursue expensive hobbies when you are already in your 60's or whatever. Whatever picks they trade for Payton will be gone in 2025 anyway. Payton can say thats the only team he will play for and they can only offer chump change but if we threaten to make them wait 2 years any team will fold because waiting 2 years is untenable.
Your understanding of depreciation is incorrect. For NFL teams, like homes, most appreciate each year.

If you lease a car for a year you pay the depreciation, roughly 20% as soon as you drive it off the lot and for the first year and 15% each year after that for up to 5 years for a total depreciation of roughly 40% over a 5 year period.
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Old 11-03-2022, 09:48 PM   #2
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Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job

Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
Your understanding of depreciation is incorrect. For NFL teams, like homes, most appreciate each year.

If you lease a car for a year you pay the depreciation, roughly 20% as soon as you drive it off the lot and for the first year and 15% each year after that for up to 5 years for a total depreciation of roughly 40% over a 5 year period.
I know cars depreciate and houses and teams generally dont. I was typing without striving for perfect analogies. Maybe a team is more like a house or a restaurant or a club. But the point is its a very expensive thing to buy, most owners spend most of their life accumulating enough wealth to buy a team. On e they have a team, if they feel the coach is mediocre and the coach they feel can win is available, i dont think they waste 2 years and all their $400 million or whatever of player salary those 2 years accepting losses to save a couple draft picks on acquiring that coach and risk losing him while waiting. Just like teams trade draft picks for players rather than waiting for those players to become free agents, be franchised twice, and then be totally free with no compensation or franchise. Just like colleges often pay buyouts rather than waiting for the coach they want to be free. I dont think anyone is waiting until 2025 to sign Payton. If they want him I think they will come to the bargaining table and I think not waiting 2 years is worth a lot. I am not sure I would want Payton back if the price was 2.5 more years of Dennis Allen first.
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