Michael Thomas to IR

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

https://neworleans.football/saints-m...oe-surgery-ir/

Don’t have a subscription, what’s the gist?

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled.

Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-04-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it.

Boston,

I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million)

The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option.

It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024.

Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take.

SFIAH

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Boston,

I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million)

The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option.

It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024.

Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take.

SFIAH

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 03:46 PM

Here is another thought/issue I’ve had with Thomas. I understand (not necessarily agree) with the “injuries happen and none of this is his fault” angle. However I’ve not seen or heard of him doing much to be a leader even with his injuries. I don’t see him keeping fans posted of his status. Don’t see him tweeting much support for his teammates. I don’t see him on the sidelines rooting the team on and maybe giving tips to younger players as the game goes on. Maybe it’s a small thing, but I’d like to see more from a team leader making the most money on the team. Just my opinion.

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 05:16 PM

Good video here ….

Oops, Could not link. My bad. It was a Kamara press conference.

As long as we have Kamara, we have a chance.

TheOak · 11-04-2022, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I agree with that. We only can control what we can but it still wouldn't hurt to try to optimize training the best we can, when we can.

I always wondered why more sports teams don't implement more yoga into their regimen. Maybe they do and it's not publicized but one would think it would pay some dividends.

Man I jammed my toe about 3 weeks ago and not only is it still purple, it hurts as hell. I for one will not rag on Thomas' turf toe. Sucks he's constantly hurt. He was on track of becoming a Hall of Famer.

First I heard of turf toe was Ingram (I laughed at first) then read a little. If recall it took over a season for him to get back to 100%. Ben Grubbs was out with it in the same time frame.

Yoga is/was offered on recovery days, Saints mentioned specifically. Now whether the players participate can be a different story.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...tice/37513937/

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking.

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking.

Fortunately I don't know what Im talking about Rugby!

11-04-2022, 02:16 PM	#41
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat https://neworleans.football/saints-m...oe-surgery-ir/ Don’t have a subscription, what’s the gist?

11-04-2022, 02:19 PM	#42
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by mapcow the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled. Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-04-2022, 02:34 PM	#43
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Boston, I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million) The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option. It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024. Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take. SFIAH Boston Saint likes this.
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11-04-2022, 02:50 PM	#44
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Boston, I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million) The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option. It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024. Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take. SFIAH We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

11-04-2022, 03:46 PM	#45
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Here is another thought/issue I’ve had with Thomas. I understand (not necessarily agree) with the “injuries happen and none of this is his fault” angle. However I’ve not seen or heard of him doing much to be a leader even with his injuries. I don’t see him keeping fans posted of his status. Don’t see him tweeting much support for his teammates. I don’t see him on the sidelines rooting the team on and maybe giving tips to younger players as the game goes on. Maybe it’s a small thing, but I’d like to see more from a team leader making the most money on the team. Just my opinion. Rugby Saint II and frydaddy like this.
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11-04-2022, 05:16 PM	#46
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Good video here …. Oops, Could not link. My bad. It was a Kamara press conference. As long as we have Kamara, we have a chance.

11-04-2022, 05:53 PM	#47
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by papz I agree with that. We only can control what we can but it still wouldn't hurt to try to optimize training the best we can, when we can. I always wondered why more sports teams don't implement more yoga into their regimen. Maybe they do and it's not publicized but one would think it would pay some dividends. Man I jammed my toe about 3 weeks ago and not only is it still purple, it hurts as hell. I for one will not rag on Thomas' turf toe. Sucks he's constantly hurt. He was on track of becoming a Hall of Famer. First I heard of turf toe was Ingram (I laughed at first) then read a little. If recall it took over a season for him to get back to 100%. Ben Grubbs was out with it in the same time frame. Yoga is/was offered on recovery days, Saints mentioned specifically. Now whether the players participate can be a different story. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...tice/37513937/

11-04-2022, 06:26 PM	#48
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,765	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure. Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

11-04-2022, 06:30 PM	#49
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,765	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure. Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh! Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking. Boston Saint likes this.

11-04-2022, 06:52 PM	#50
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh! Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking. Fortunately I don't know what Im talking about Rugby! Rugby Saint II likes this.