Michael Thomas to IR

mapcow · 11-04-2022, 09:17 AM

the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled.

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled.

Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-04-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it.

Boston,

I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million)

The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option.

It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024.

Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take.

SFIAH

Boston Saint · 11-04-2022, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Boston,

I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million)

The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option.

It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024.

Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take.

SFIAH

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell.

Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking.

mapcow · 11-05-2022, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it.

Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND when and IF he ever gets fully healthy...original contract terms can be addressed when he proves himself able. Just a dream.... Prima Donna's do not think like that.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-05-2022, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND when and IF he ever gets fully healthy...original contract terms can be addressed when he proves himself able. Just a dream.... Prima Donna's do not think like that.

That's delusional fan thinking believing that players are rabid fans like us and would do anything, even to their own personal detriment, to help the team.

Why don't you go first? Monday morning go to your CEO's office and offer to take a pay cut in order to help the company bottom line.

Dude, for everyone in the NFL it's a career. It's a livelihood. Even though everyone is paid huge amounts of money to do the work, only fool would give up what they worked for in order to better the team.

That is not a dream. That's a delusion. You should get some help for that.

SFIAH

mapcow · 11-06-2022, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That's delusional fan thinking believing that players are rabid fans like us and would do anything, even to their own personal detriment, to help the team.

Why don't you go first? Monday morning go to your CEO's office and offer to take a pay cut in order to help the company bottom line.

Dude, for everyone in the NFL it's a career. It's a livelihood. Even though everyone is paid huge amounts of money to do the work, only fool would give up what they worked for in order to better the team.

That is not a dream. That's a delusion. You should get some help for that.

SFIAH

I am not sick at home or injured sitting the bench.. I actually perform my tasks as I am paid for. Seems your nose is a bit brown there my somewhat ignorant friend.

Guess Brees was delusional...he was healthy and playing at the time of his delusional decision

https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-rene...-space-in-2021

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 09:44 AM

Well, most of us knew that this was a strong possibility. It's too bad for can't call Mike. However, I wish him well and hope he can suit up for the Saints again. It's too bad that we can't trade him for a player that can get on the field. But it is what it is.

11-04-2022, 09:17 AM	#1
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Michael Thomas to IR the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled.
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11-04-2022, 02:19 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by mapcow the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled. Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-04-2022, 02:34 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Boston, I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million) The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option. It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024. Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take. SFIAH Boston Saint likes this.
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11-04-2022, 02:50 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Boston, I used to agree with this sentiment, but I don't think that's actually true. Come 2023 the Saints are stuck between a rock and a hard place with MT13's contract. It's the first year of the big money ($15.5 million salary) and the big cap hit ($28+ million) The rock are those numbers. The hard place is that to get rid of those numbers and keep the player, the Saints will have to restructure or extend the current contract. And unfortunately with MT13's 3 year injury history, there simply isn't a scenario that supports that option. It looks like the only option that makes sense now is to trade/cut MT13 after June 1 of next year. It'll be a $11 million hit in 2023 and I believe an additional $16 million in 2024. Maybe MT13 will step up and agree to play for the Saints in 2023 for a pay cut. But that's a rare rare option that most NFL players will refuse to take. SFIAH We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure.

11-04-2022, 06:26 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure. Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh!

11-04-2022, 06:30 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint We shall see. Those are close to the numbers spotrac has as well. Being in the situation they are now 11 and then 13 dead is still too much to take. Restructure will likely happen. Time will tell. Edit: another thing to note is teams need to be under the cap by March 16th. Waiting until June 1st to deal with his cap hit isn’t an option. A big question too is when hi is likely to “return” after this latest procedure. Oh lord no. Please don't give one more contract extension just to free money up next year. Those contracts prohibit long term growth and we need to get younger in the draft. Play him next year and see what happens.🙈 We could get lucky and have a com back season......don't laugh! Sorry about the double post. Yes I've been m drinking. Boston Saint likes this.

11-05-2022, 11:27 AM	#7
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by Boston Saint Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND when and IF he ever gets fully healthy...original contract terms can be addressed when he proves himself able. Just a dream.... Prima Donna's do not think like that. jnormand likes this.
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11-05-2022, 11:46 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by mapcow Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND when and IF he ever gets fully healthy...original contract terms can be addressed when he proves himself able. Just a dream.... Prima Donna's do not think like that. That's delusional fan thinking believing that players are rabid fans like us and would do anything, even to their own personal detriment, to help the team. Why don't you go first? Monday morning go to your CEO's office and offer to take a pay cut in order to help the company bottom line. Dude, for everyone in the NFL it's a career. It's a livelihood. Even though everyone is paid huge amounts of money to do the work, only fool would give up what they worked for in order to better the team. That is not a dream. That's a delusion. You should get some help for that. SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.
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11-06-2022, 10:34 AM	#9
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL That's delusional fan thinking believing that players are rabid fans like us and would do anything, even to their own personal detriment, to help the team. Why don't you go first? Monday morning go to your CEO's office and offer to take a pay cut in order to help the company bottom line. Dude, for everyone in the NFL it's a career. It's a livelihood. Even though everyone is paid huge amounts of money to do the work, only fool would give up what they worked for in order to better the team. That is not a dream. That's a delusion. You should get some help for that. SFIAH I am not sick at home or injured sitting the bench.. I actually perform my tasks as I am paid for. Seems your nose is a bit brown there my somewhat ignorant friend. Guess Brees was delusional...he was healthy and playing at the time of his delusional decision https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-rene...-space-in-2021
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11-04-2022, 09:44 AM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Well, most of us knew that this was a strong possibility. It's too bad for can't call Mike. However, I wish him well and hope he can suit up for the Saints again. It's too bad that we can't trade him for a player that can get on the field. But it is what it is. jnormand and shawnkytonk like this.

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