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Disappointment loss after an inspired team win last week. Total uninspired play and coaching today. This team is going nowhere fast. Grit your teeth... it's going to be rough the rest of the way.

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WAIT... It's not over... LOL

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pitiful performance, bad coaching, o played terrible, d looked good to start then might as well jumped off a bridge onto concrete.

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Marv Lewis has a career 19-13 record against the Ravens. Not saying he is the best coach, but clearly he is an upgrade over Allen and is available now.

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The only chance we had was to control the time of possession. The defense was tired and severely banged up by the end of the 3rd quarter.

The Ravens secondary has been bad all year and we didn’t try to push the ball down field.

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Barn sale. It’s the only answer. Keep a few center pieces and throw the rest out there for trades. Time to unload some dead weight for some picks.

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Trade deadline was last week.

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Need a completely new coaching staff from top to bottom

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This was one that I never thought we'd win anyway.

However that said, I'm getting a bit tired of DA being the head coach now.

We've lost way too many winnable games, QB needs to be high on the draft list and if it's not, then several members of staff need to be shown the door.

It would make it slightly better if we had either a young QB that was learning the game or at least had a first round pick to look forward to, but management have mortgaged the future of this team for zero immediate benefit.

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I know we do this because it’s habit but is there any observation left to be made? :):confused::bng:

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It’s not the reason we lost, but it’s tough to win we you are seeing guys like Kaden Ellis, Dwayne Washington and Kevin White logging serious playing time.

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A hard re boot 🥾 is necessary.

Didn’t the Pels fire Van Gundy after ONE season?

Dennis Allen is in over his head. He ain’t it. His record is who he is.

This team is bad.

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Where was Mike?

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- The Ravens defense looks a ton better with Roquan at MLB. Of all the trades that went down, that (or the Vikings Hockenson trade) might be the best.
- The offense, especially our running game, is very perfunctory. It lacks in variety and we're not fooling anyone or giving defenses enough to worry about. It just doesn't seem like we're putting the offense in a position to make plays. No Taysom on 2nd and 2 or 3rd and 1, but there he is on 1st and 10 ... grrr.
- The defense played well but eventually got gassed by our offense's penchant for 3 and outs.
- All the stats about our offense being productive is fools' gold. Our 3 wins have been: 1) the Falcons choking, 2) Taysom having the game of his life and 3) Kamara playing an insane game. The offense isn't very fluid and has a lot to figure out.

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And these injuries are becoming ridiculous now. Laughable.

Werner, McKoy, Taylor (I think he returned), Davenport.

Anyone else I may have missed?

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Lol!!

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Even Guido can't pump sunshine into this one.



Looking at how our division is doing in general, the NFC South has become the old NFC East. We're all in a rough place both short and long term.

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The league, refs and other teams will do us no favors. They will directly or indirectly try to get Divorce Boy and the Bucs to finish first in the South. We're going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting and split with the Bucs to have any shot.

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What QBs will be available in free agency next year?

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No.

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Prolly not for this game. But it does indeed help fans vent a bit.

The NFL wanted every team to suck and be eligible for playoffs with an 8-9 record, very much like hockey. Welcome to today's NFL. Under that standard, we still have a chance, slim as it is. Last year's Bengals made it to the SB with less than a top notch record, didn't they?

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To sign a good QB in free agency we will need to get under the cap and then free up even more cap space. This will require signing players like Michael Thomas, Andrus Peat, Jarvis Landy, Tyrann Mathieu, Taysom Hill, Marcus Maye, etc to long term extensions to defer money in return for guaranteeing them more. Loomis will make this happen. That is why we have to fire Loomis.

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That is a really good question. I think that since we don't have a good enough draft pick to draft a quarterback that this might be our best option. There's something to be said for a fresh start somewhere else. Look at Drew. However, we don't have that same type of coaching now.

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This QB draft will be pretty deep. Maybe if things shake out right Hooker or DTR or another desirable QB will slip into 2nd or 3rd round while Bryce Young and the flavor of the month choices go at the top of the draft.

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Geno Smith (32 years old)
Baker Mayfield (27 years old)
Sam Darnold (25 years old)
Jimmy Garoppolo (31 years old)
Daniel Jones (25 years old)
Tyler Huntley (25 years old)
Gardner Minshew (26 years old)

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Lewis has not proven to be a get-over-the-hump coach. The ultimate tease for HC. I'd like to see a Payton/Tomlin type of coach here. Not only cerebral but tough as well.

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Yeah but anything would be an improvement over our Meyer/McDaniels/Jackson type of coach and I want to improve immediately.

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I was thinking this too. Jalen Hurts slipped to pick 53.

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Just watched the highlights, I'm really glad I didnt stay up (UK time) for that game.

As usual, team looks flat, uninspired and really poorly coached.

The throws to the flat by Jackson were an automatic 8+ yards because the defenders were playing so far off. That's not even counting the yardage after the inevitable missed tackle or 3.

DA and Loomis let a ton of defensive talent walk and it shows. This team is just poor all around.

I'm starting to think we need a full reboot, including some coaching staff members.

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Actually. I meant in the off-season. This team is going to lead us to giving the eagles a top 5 pick. It’s time to press the reboot button. Build through the draft

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Quote:

.@SeanPayton has always been a big Lamar Jackson fan https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f605.png"I have a chance to be a free agent, and he has a chance to be a free agent."

I know--hack copy and paste job... Sorry. But that's an interesting comment by Payton

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-By NFL standards, the Saints are soft. Soft in coaching and soft in effort. With the division lead at stake, they showed no fire or passion.
-As a 50 year Saints fan, my interest in watching this team is equally soft.
-I believe T. Hill could play safety better than those currently lining up there. And he absolutely should be the QB for the rest of the year.

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I guess.

2023 might be rough.

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And 2024! The problems on this team will not be fixed quick!

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Just like the team wasn’t nearly as good as they looked blowing out the Raiders they aren’t as bad as they looked last night. They played one of the best teams in the league after they came off a Thursday game. As
mentioned Werner and Taylor got hurt during the game. Washington and Ellis had to log a lot of playing time. It’s a bad look and they weren’t prepared. Take it week by week is all we can do.

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These two for me.

Both are relatively young, probably won't break the bank and some upside.

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- The Dalton experiment has run its course. The Ravens had a secondary that could be beat, but Dalton wasn't the man to make this happen. He looked immobile and slow. His decision making was poor. Two yard outs on 3 and five. :rolleyes: I'd rather take a Winston pick here or there for at least a chance to hit some explosive plays at any time.

- Lamar Jackson is sick. His passing game sucks, but he can carry the ball 30 times a game and can't be stopped by anyone.

- Losing McCoy really hurt. Ruiz has locked down RG the past several games and after being forced to snap Throckmorton couldn't stop anyone in his stead.

- Ravens fans were present in huge numbers. The most I've seen this year by an opposing fanbase.

- As mentioned by someone earlier, the stagnant playcalling and execution by the offense forced the defense, which I believe performed quite well given the circumstances, to simply wear down as the game progressed.

- The addition of Roquan Smith played a major role from what I could see. He was in the middle of play all game long.

- Did I mention Dalton continues to miss open receivers on key plays?

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3 total touches for Taysom Hill vs Ravens.

A playmaker with 3 touches all game.

Coaching ☹️.

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I don’t understand. They used him quite a bit last week. And he was making plays and doing great. Then this week he had 3 touches. And none until the 3rd quarter if I’m not mistaken.