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Sinner 12-09-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 964978)
None of the above. No doubt they can all catch a ball FAR, FAR better than you or I. But, they are human and as humans make mistakes like all of us. Why? Perhaps they are trying too hard to get an edge. But, nothing a coach says at this point of their careers about basic fundamentals should make a difference.

Just look at the Rams. They are have exactly the same issues. I guess in your mind McVay has suddenly forgot how to coach.

"nothing a coach says at this point of their careers about basic fundamentals should make a difference."

So I guess in YOUR MIND, there is basically no need to even HAVE a Head Coach then, "at this point in their careers."

Boston Saint 12-09-2022 05:48 PM

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I guess in your mind McVay has suddenly forgot how to coach.

That’s couch.

AsylumGuido 12-09-2022 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 964979)
"nothing a coach says at this point of their careers about basic fundamentals should make a difference."

So I guess in YOUR MIND, there is basically no need to even HAVE a Head Coach then, "at this point in their careers."

Come on, Sinner. You're getting ridiculous. There are countless needs to have a head coach. If you actually think I think differently then it is a waste of time to even discuss the subject.

Unbelievable. Wow! :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 12-09-2022 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 964980)
That’s couch.

Obviously he has a problem discerning the differences.

Sinner 12-09-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 964981)
Come on, Sinner. You're getting ridiculous. There are countless needs to have a head coach. If you actually think I think differently then it is a waste of time to even discuss the subject.

Unbelievable. Wow! :rolleyes:

Great! Now we're getting somewhere!

Please list THREE of the "countless needs" to have a Head Coach. Top three...

AsylumGuido 12-09-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 964985)
Great! Now we're getting somewhere!

Please list THREE of the "countless needs" to have a Head Coach. Top three...

You are getting nowhere.

Sinner 12-09-2022 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 964988)
You are getting nowhere.

Ok you can't give me three. Give me ONE. *HINT: Motivating his Players to WIN (and ACHIEVING THAT RESULT) has to be in the top ten, if not the top three of the Head Coach's duties.

AsylumGuido 12-10-2022 01:54 PM

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Sinner 12-10-2022 02:01 PM

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Coach to Kamara: "Just keep doing what you're doing... ****'s gonna get really hilarious"

K Major 12-10-2022 02:18 PM

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Someone sounds big mad.

4-9 will do that do you I guess.

dizzle88 12-10-2022 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 965007)
Someone sounds big mad.

4-9 will do that do you I guess.

Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards.

AsylumGuido 12-10-2022 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 965008)
Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards.

That's what happens when you run up the gut on first down every time with backup lineman on the left side of the line from center out. It's called abysmal playcalling and untimely injuries.

Boston Saint 12-10-2022 03:58 PM

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Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”.

Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

dizzle88 12-10-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 965010)
Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”.

Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

AsylumGuido 12-10-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 965013)
I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

dizzle88 12-10-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 965015)
Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

AsylumGuido 12-10-2022 04:28 PM

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And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

To this I agree. I'm not sure what else could have been done during the season. Replacing an OC midstream could be more problematic than just going with the flow.

Boston Saint 12-10-2022 04:29 PM

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I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

AsylumGuido 12-10-2022 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 965018)
I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

Now that is a truism if I've ever heard one.

K Major 12-10-2022 04:33 PM

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And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

Don’t worry, Pete C is gone after the season.

But you’re right, it starts with Mr. Allen :bng:

dizzle88 12-10-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 965018)
I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

Nah nothing to apologise for Boston, all good my friend!

As you say, as fans we can only vent to be honest!

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 965018)
I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

There are several people running an NFL team that don't know what they're doing. I'm beginning to question if we know what we're doing.


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