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Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; This topic (false starts) has been broached here recently. My least liked offensive lineman is by far the most guilty, Calvin Throckmorton, with five false starts in only 280 snaps. Cesar Ruiz has the best (lowest) ratio of false starts ...

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Old 12-02-2022, 05:18 PM   #1
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Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

This topic (false starts) has been broached here recently. My least liked offensive lineman is by far the most guilty, Calvin Throckmorton, with five false starts in only 280 snaps. Cesar Ruiz has the best (lowest) ratio of false starts to snaps by far at only one in a team leading 755 snaps.

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Old 12-03-2022, 03:53 PM   #2
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

It’s coaching and the lack of attention to detail.
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Old 12-03-2022, 04:24 PM   #3
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It’s coaching and the lack of attention to detail.
I think it has more to do with the lack of positional consistency of the offensive line. And more importantly, the center position. It may also be on Dalton to a degree. The cadence may be causing an issue at times.
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Old 12-03-2022, 05:42 PM   #4
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I think it has more to do with the lack of positional consistency of the offensive line. And more importantly, the center position. It may also be on Dalton to a degree. The cadence may be causing an issue at times.
^^^ Simplified: Coaching.
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Old 12-04-2022, 08:33 AM   #5
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^^^ Simplified: Coaching.
You can only coach so much. It has more to do with repetition. You can only do so much as a coach when the offensive line (including the TE) has been in a constant flux. The main culprit has been the lineman with the fewest snaps, Throckmorton. He's had close to 20% of the entire team's false starts himself.

What else can a coach do to to get him to stop? Bench him? Hell, he's only playing because there isn't anyone else available. Every new CBA reduces the amount of time that coaches can spend with players. It also reduces the number of practice repetitions. At some point to the individual players that are making mistakes. If it was solely on coaching the entire team would be making the same mistakes. They aren't.

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Old 12-04-2022, 09:11 AM   #6
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

New quarterbacks, new coaches, offensive linemen starting who aren't starters, offensive linemen switching positions... All of these things contribute.
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

The false starts at home are the ones that are very frustrating and less excusable.
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Old 12-04-2022, 11:15 AM   #8
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

The Steelers had a borderline terrible offensive line in 2021, carried over into this season, cut some players, switched QBs (Trubisky to Baby Hands rookie K Pickett) & now dealing with an OC that will probably lose his job after the season. Yet, somehow they managed to eliminate false start penalties (3rd to last in false starts - KC has less than any team).

Some of ya'll reaching on excuses with this Dennis Allen led team.

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Old 12-04-2022, 11:50 AM   #9
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

Everyone is making some very good points about the backups playing and being penalized. However, I still think it falls on Dennis Allen who is just too lackadaisical to be a leader of men. He has no fire, no leadership skills, and he does not demand accountability for poor showings.

Just keep doing what you're doing.... Good lord, that is just loser talk! Unfortunately, we'll probably be stuck with Dennis Allen for another year.
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Old 12-04-2022, 12:00 PM   #10
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

"Keep doing what you're doing"

Fumbling, missing tackles, getting stupid penalties.

DA's appointment press conference had me fooled, I genuinely thought he had fire and would hold players accountable.

Doesn't look like he even cares.
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