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Boston Saint 12-09-2022 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 964963)
Saints had more penalties (6-84)
Only 56 total plays (Tampa - 75)
3rd down efficiency was poor (5-14)

But the big stat line for me —> RED ZONE (0-3). Settling for fgs instead of TDs.

It’s the “little” things that get you beat on Sundays.

Details, details.
Indeed. Like catching passes that hit your hands.

Sinner 12-09-2022 03:26 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 964964)
Indeed. Like catching passes that hit your hands.
That's a COACHING issue... It's about MOTIVATION... Unless you are suggesting that Receivers at the PROFESSIONAL LEVEL don't know how to catch a football?

Boston Saint 12-09-2022 03:57 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 964966)
That's a COACHING issue... It's about MOTIVATION... Unless you are suggesting that Receivers at the PROFESSIONAL LEVEL don't know how to catch a football?
You seem to Be suggesting that receivers at the professional level can’t catch unless a couch motivates them. I disagree. They should do their damn job and catch the damn ball. This isn’t Pop Warner.

mapcow 12-09-2022 03:59 PM
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The Prima Donna and the thug

Sinner 12-09-2022 04:00 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 964968)
You seem to Be suggesting that receivers at the professional level can’t catch unless a couch motivates them. I disagree. They should do their damn job and catch the damn ball. This isn’t Pop Warner.
So they CAN catch! But they don't or won't. Why not? (By the way, I LOVE that you wrote "couch" instead of "coach". Sounds about right).

Boston Saint 12-09-2022 04:22 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 964970)
So they CAN catch! But they don't or won't. Why not? (By the way, I LOVE that you wrote "couch" instead of "coach". Sounds about right).
An, the old autocorrect insult. Pretty sorry when you have to resort to that.

Sinner 12-09-2022 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 964972)
An, the old autocorrect insult. Pretty sorry when you have to resort to that.
Don't be insulted by autocorrect. Sometimes it gets it right!

AsylumGuido 12-09-2022 05:16 PM
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If a player requires a coach to motivate them to catch a ball or to keep from moving prior to the snap then it is 100% THAT player's problem. That's something they should have already mastered well before ever becoming a professional.

Sinner 12-09-2022 05:26 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 964975)
If a player requires a coach to motivate them to catch a ball or to keep from moving prior to the snap then it is 100% THAT player's problem. That's something they should have already mastered well before ever becoming a professional.
So you ARE saying that PROFESSIONAL RECEIVERS haven't mastered catching the ball before becoming professional? Or now that they are PROS, they forgot how to catch? Or PROFESSIONAL LINEMEN haven't learned how to keep from moving prior to the snap, well before becoming PROS, or that now that they are PROFESSIONALS, they forgot how to PLAY? And that THESE professional players DON'T require a PROFESSIONAL COACH to motivate them?

AsylumGuido 12-09-2022 05:35 PM
Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 964977)
So you ARE saying that PROFESSIONAL RECEIVERS haven't mastered catching the ball before becoming professional? Or now that they are PROFESSIONALS, they forgot how to catch? And that professional players DON'T require a PROFESSIONAL COACH to motivate them?
None of the above. No doubt they can all catch a ball FAR, FAR better than you or I. But, they are human and as humans make mistakes like all of us. Why? Perhaps they are trying too hard to get an edge. But, nothing a coach says at this point of their careers about basic fundamentals should make a difference.

Just look at the Rams. They are have exactly the same issues. I guess in your mind McVay has suddenly forgot how to coach.


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