saintsfan1976

A pattern has developed.

The players change, yet the outcome is the same.

The only constant is coaching which must be accountable.

neugey

Now that I have calmed down - a little - here's some observations:

- Through 3 1/2 quarters the Bucs clearly looked like the more rudderless and fragmented team on the field. We channeled our inner Falcon and let them off the hook.

- For a good part of the second half we did a nice good of chewing up closing and sustaining drives. The 12-men-in-the-huddle near the goalline was brutal. Payton would have put in Taysom for QB power and there would've been no need for a huddle to begin with.

- The Ingram running out of bounds debacle - this is what happens when you put an injured player back out on the field. Kamara or Washington, a ham sandwich or any of us could have stayed in bounds and gotten that first down. Either Ingram felt something go or made the worst business decision possible.

- Carmichael's misuse of Kamara continues to infuriate me. Find someone who can set the edge and call some runs to the outside or get the ball to Kamara in the flat. Heck, maybe line him up in the slot at this rate.

- Look, I get that Taysom cannot play every snap but he certainly doesn't. He was missing on the field in some key situations.

- By and large the defense tackled well and rallied to the ball.

- Due to Honey Badger's advancing age and lack of size, him trying to cover tight ends is a real problem.

- For once some of the crucial calls (particularly the holding call negating a TB TD) actually went our way in a TB game. This one wasn't the refs, we beat ourselves.

- Not getting to go for it on 4th and 10 and getting the offense pulled off the field lit a fire under Tom's butt. Bowles lucked into a good coaching move.

- Like other weeks, Alonte Taylor and Shaheed were the bright spots.

FinSaint

The thing is that he could've pretty much gotten the 1st without taking a hit by just extending the ball forward, but instead he just ran out of bounds with the ball tucked away.

neugey

One other thing - why does it seem like even compared to college teams our D-line almost never seems to stunt and the pass rush is all straight-ahead 4 man bull rush? It's weird.

MatthewT

-Defense played a great game but didn't get it done when it counted.

-Ingram essentially ended his career with that sorry effort. Sure, he will likely finish the year, but I see no one picking him up next year. Looks like a "business decision" that may have backfired.

-Andy Dalton, not blaming this game on him, but overall a very decent backup type of QB who can get it done in at times but not consistently.

-AK needs to be done as a primary running back. Use him as a pass catching RB with a few runs in space sprinkled in and he may get back to greatness again.

cars4dylan

No...use him properly.

Did Sean Payton rip out the page of the iPad that had screenplays? WTSeriousF!!!

Dalton did really well with the exception of taking that sack instead of throwing it away (again).

Pete Carmichael has to go because he's either incapable of being "Sean Payton-like" or he is afraid of being called "Sean Payton-like". The 3rd down with Hill and Merritt being the only route runners should have gotten him a pink slip right on the spot. Let alone the 3rd and 1 and with Calloway being the "go-to" guy for the slant route. Personnel groupings for each play is utterly nonsensical.

And DA should focus on Defense Coordinator, he's phenomenal.

But overall "Leadership Skills" for the team right now can best be described with one word, FECKLESS.

Rell&Gold

Thank you some the guys will sit in here and make injuries an excuse for DA bot not for the players on the field? The Saints interior Oline has been trash for every since Kelemete walked. Whatever he doing now is irrelevant when he was here we moved bodies. Can't run the ball inside we don't run the ball outside. MI had a 7 yard "run" that boosted his output that was a backwards pass behind the LOS other than that the run game was the same. Some these guys really believe numbers tell it all and it doesn't. AK shouldn't be starting anymore? Please go take a seat in the dumpster and take those stupid @$$ takes with you.

leilung

My Post Mortem Loss Observations:

The Uppers
-Shaheed is our blazer on downfield routes. The only thing stopping him was AD's short armed passing!
-Taylor is a gem! A little more polish and he's a star!
-We got the Good Lutz this game instead of the Evil Lutz.
-Olave! Olave! O-La-Ve!!!!

The Downers
-The Bobbly Boops (aka Dropsies). We score when we catch those balls and we win.
-O line miscues. We're in week 13 and STILL have missed pass blocking assignments? WTF guys!!!!
-Call the NOPD because I'm tired of witnessing the ongoing crime of the Kamara abuse on offense!
-Stop calling AD the 'Red Rifle'. He's a 'Red Ryder BB Gun' on deeper routes. He's visibly tentative on throwing 15+ yds.
-Let's give single man coverage of Evans to our 2nd best DB with the game on the line! That is absolute GENIUS!!!
-While we're at it, let's keep a 4 man rush on TB to make sure he has PLENTY of time to find a receiver when he has to throw it!

Mixed Bag
-Taysom is NOT a surprise at QB anymore. Put him in a slot and let him disrupt. Also, two gloves would have probably helped him hold the ball...
-Less Penalties helped. Refs started calling the TB holding (which was going on ALL game) late in the game for some reason.
-AK looks ...tired.

A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"

K Major

Blame Dalton, blame Ingram, blame AK, blame it on the rain.

But when the players make critical, dumb mistakes across the board …

It’s BAD COACHING.

iceshack149

How deflating. Brady was throwing fits all night long. It's fun watching a grown man on another team show so much frustration throughout a game. Then... the Saints pissed their pants. After the PI to get TB to the Saints goal line I knew it was over. Sad times.


By the way:
Mark Ingram--7 carries for 27 yards = 3.9 yards a carry
Alvin Kamara--12 carries for 26 yards = 2.2 yards a carry
Yes coaching is an issue but Kamara looks lifeless out there.