Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9

halloween 65 · 12-16-2022, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they weren’t shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so he’s got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allen’s philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and it’s resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities."

He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!

Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

K Major · 12-16-2022, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

Lol, "fans". It's the Lions.

Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen

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At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division.

Did you miss the thread on wins and losses?

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol, "fans". It's the Lions.

Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen .
At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division.

Did you miss the thread on wins and losses?

When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

TheOak · 12-18-2022, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

Where you place blame is irrelevant, it is his responsibility as HC.

Rugby Saint II · 12-17-2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!

It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach.

Sinner · 12-17-2022, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach.

"Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach."

He just doesn't bring the fire. If he did, this season wouldn't feel so cold. For those who want to give him more time to warm up, better stock up on some blankets for at least another season.

12-16-2022, 04:56 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Sinner "The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they weren’t shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so he’s got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allen’s philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and it’s resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities." He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !! Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

12-16-2022, 05:02 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !! Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

12-16-2022, 05:17 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were ****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions. Lol, "fans". It's the Lions. Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell* has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen . At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division. Did you miss the thread on wins and losses? Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

12-16-2022, 05:40 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by K Major Lol, "fans". It's the Lions. Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen . At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division. Did you miss the thread on wins and losses? When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

12-18-2022, 12:14 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael. Where you place blame is irrelevant, it is his responsibility as HC. Sinner, K Major and The Meat Guy like this.

12-17-2022, 12:05 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !! It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach. Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

12-17-2022, 12:28 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach. "Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach." He just doesn't bring the fire. If he did, this season wouldn't feel so cold. For those who want to give him more time to warm up, better stock up on some blankets for at least another season. Rugby Saint II, halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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