Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!

Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

K Major · 12-16-2022, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

Lol, "fans". It's the Lions.

Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen

.
At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division.

Did you miss the thread on wins and losses?

K Major · 12-16-2022, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Doug Marrone is one of the very best offensive line coaches to have coach in the NFL over the past couple of decades. Did he forget how to coach, as well? Very curious.

You're right.

Maybe the Saints will fire Dennis and elevate Dougie to interim HC?

At least he "coached" up Blake Bortles to an AFC title game

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AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol, "fans". It's the Lions.

Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen .
At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division.

Did you miss the thread on wins and losses?

When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

Rugby Saint II · 12-17-2022, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!

It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach.

Sinner · 12-17-2022, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach.

"Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach."

He just doesn't bring the fire. If he did, this season wouldn't feel so cold. For those who want to give him more time to warm up, better stock up on some blankets for at least another season.

BakoSaint · 12-17-2022, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Doug Marrone is one of the very best offensive line coaches to have coach in the NFL over the past couple of decades. Did he forget how to coach, as well? Very curious.

The young players see Little Debbie Peat making $15 million year after year without getting cut or benched thanks to Loomis’s disasterous cap and draft management and Peat as the high paid elder statemen becomes the defacto captain of the oline and sets the standard for many of the players. Nobody can coach out of that. You have to give yourself the cap flexibility to cut dead weight or you lose credibility.

leilung · 12-18-2022, 11:39 AM

I wonder how many were calling for SP's ouster after his first season? Just saying that many are spoiled having a winning team for all of those years, but the early years were lean!

I'm being patient and taking the wait and see route with respect to DA... for now.

K Major · 12-18-2022, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I wonder how many were calling for SP's ouster after his first season? Just saying that many are spoiled having a winning team for all of those years, but the early years were lean!

NO ONE boss.

Sean Payton went 10-6, 1st in the NFC South
and was one victory away from a ticket to the Super Bowl as a first year HC

Dennis Allen ain’t it as a HC no matter how much time he gets.

TheOak · 12-18-2022, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

Where you place blame is irrelevant, it is his responsibility as HC.

12-16-2022, 06:02 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !! Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were *****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions.

12-16-2022, 06:17 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Lions fans were calling for Dan Campbell's head earlier this season or did you miss that thread? They were ****ing about his 4-19-1 record since taking over the Lions. Lol, "fans". It's the Lions. Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell* has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen . At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division. Did you miss the thread on wins and losses? Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

12-16-2022, 06:27 PM	#13
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Doug Marrone is one of the very best offensive line coaches to have coach in the NFL over the past couple of decades. Did he forget how to coach, as well? Very curious. You're right. Maybe the Saints will fire Dennis and elevate Dougie to interim HC? At least he "coached" up Blake Bortles to an AFC title game . Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

12-16-2022, 06:40 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by K Major Lol, "fans". It's the Lions. Yet still, somehow Dan Campbell has more wins (14) & 10 fewer losses (27) than your guy Mr. Dennis 12-37 Allen . At least the Lions are 1 game from .500 ball & second in their division. Did you miss the thread on wins and losses? When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael.

12-17-2022, 01:05 PM	#15
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !! It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach. Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

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12-17-2022, 01:28 PM	#16
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's obvious that Dennis Allen is not a gambler. Just look at his third and short or 4th and short decisions that affect whether we win or lose games. He always goes for the safe bet. It's also obvious that he is not a chess player. Sean Payton was a master chess player. Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach. "Yes, Dennis Allen can coach a defense but is limited as a head coach." He just doesn't bring the fire. If he did, this season wouldn't feel so cold. For those who want to give him more time to warm up, better stock up on some blankets for at least another season. Rugby Saint II, halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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12-17-2022, 02:55 PM	#17
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Doug Marrone is one of the very best offensive line coaches to have coach in the NFL over the past couple of decades. Did he forget how to coach, as well? Very curious. The young players see Little Debbie Peat making $15 million year after year without getting cut or benched thanks to Loomis’s disasterous cap and draft management and Peat as the high paid elder statemen becomes the defacto captain of the oline and sets the standard for many of the players. Nobody can coach out of that. You have to give yourself the cap flexibility to cut dead weight or you lose credibility.
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12-18-2022, 11:39 AM	#18
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 I wonder how many were calling for SP's ouster after his first season? Just saying that many are spoiled having a winning team for all of those years, but the early years were lean! I'm being patient and taking the wait and see route with respect to DA... for now. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by leilung I wonder how many were calling for SP's ouster after his first season? Just saying that many are spoiled having a winning team for all of those years, but the early years were lean! NO ONE boss. Sean Payton went 10-6, 1st in the NFC South and was one victory away from a ticket to the Super Bowl as a first year HC Dennis Allen ain’t it as a HC no matter how much time he gets. iceshack149, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido When did I ever claim Dennis Allen as "my guy"? I have been wondering where you came up with that fallacy. Obviously he can't hold Sean Payton's jockstrap as a head coach. But who could? I just haven't placed all the blame on him. I place the majority of the blame on untimely injuries, followed closely by offensive game planning and playcalling by Pete Carmichael. Where you place blame is irrelevant, it is his responsibility as HC. Sinner, K Major and The Meat Guy like this.