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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Twitter John Sigler December 16, 2022 9:52 am CT You often are who your record says you are in the NFL, but Drew Brees feels the New Orleans Saints are better than their 4-9 tally suggests. The former Saints quarterback ...

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Old 12-16-2022, 11:36 AM   #1
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Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9


John Sigler
December 16, 2022 9:52 am CT

You often are who your record says you are in the NFL, but Drew Brees feels the New Orleans Saints are better than their 4-9 tally suggests. The former Saints quarterback took stock of his old team during an appearance on WWL radio Thursday night, discussing their year so far and whatís ahead of them.

ďTheyíre not a 4-9 team, but theyíre 4-9,Ē Brees conceded, pointing to some things the team has done well that were undercut by too many low moments, bad breaks, and self-inflicted wounds. He continued, ďAnd I think thatís probably the disappointing part, and I still feel it along with the guys in the locker room, your heart hurts.Ē

The Saints have been competitive in most of their games this year, but they havenít finished strong and have racked up too many losses with poor play in the second half. And Brees has an inside track on how those defeats hit his friends and peers in the locker room: he shared the title of team captain with Demario Davis and Cameron Jordan, completed hundreds of passes to Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas, and heís still close with many people in the building despite having been away for two years.

So Brees knows better than most what so many frustrations can do to a teamís morale. The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they werenít shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so heís got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allenís philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and itís resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities.

Itís a bad process thatís led to bad results, and the Saints are worse off for it. Theyíre a better team than their record implies ó they rank near league-average in points scored and allowed, yards gained and yielded per play, third down conversions, and a host of other key stats. But at the end of the day, theyíll be eliminated from the playoffs because of their record and nothing else. This team is worse than the sum of its parts, and a lot of that comes down on coaching. Everyone can see it. Even Brees.

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This team is worse than the sum of its parts, and a lot of that comes down on coaching. Everyone can see it. Even Brees.
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"The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they werenít shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so heís got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allenís philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and itís resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities."
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"The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they werenít shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so heís got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allenís philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and itís resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities."
Offensive playcalling. That's what I've been harping on with Pete Carmichael. But are they concerned with the backups on the offensive line and at TE and is that affecting the diminished playbook?
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Offensive playcalling. That's what I've been harping on with Pete Carmichael. But are they concerned with the backups on the offensive line and at TE and is that affecting the diminished playbook?
"...Dennis Allen has made that bed, so heís got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allenís philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and itís resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities."
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Offensive playcalling. That's what I've been harping on with Pete Carmichael. But are they concerned with the backups on the offensive line and at TE and is that affecting the diminished playbook?
If the backups were well coached they shouldn't need to alter the play calling as much. Backups can do the same things as starters. Just not as well. I can understand having to make a couple of adjustments. But to have to recreate a game plan, that was lacking in inspiration to begin with, is just too much for this coaching staff. I've seen coaches do more with less. We did have a strong looking roster to start the year. Injuries have hurt us but it's possible that the coaching has hurts us more.
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If the backups were well coached they shouldn't need to alter the play calling as much. Backups can do the same things as starters. Just not as well. I can understand having to make a couple of adjustments. But to have to recreate a game plan, that was lacking in inspiration to begin with, is just too much for this coaching staff. I've seen coaches do more with less. We did have a strong looking roster to start the year. Injuries have hurt us but it's possible that the coaching has hurts us more.
"I've seen coaches do more with less. We did have a strong looking roster to start the year. Injuries have hurt us but it's EVIDENT that the coaching has hurts us more."
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"The Saints would probably be in a better spot right now if they werenít shackled with the least-ambitious coaching staff in the league, but Dennis Allen has made that bed, so heís got to lie in it. Too many punts on fourth down and short field goal tries have defined Allenís philosophy of playing not-to-lose rather than trying to win, and itís resulted in too many lost games and missed opportunities."
He don't challenge is his motto!! He's not a poker player Payton was. He thinks the cards are going to fall into his hand like his job did. He's not cutting the mustard, period. It's not in him!! Dan Campbell was the one that got away. Payton should be embarrassed !!
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If the backups were well coached they shouldn't need to alter the play calling as much. Backups can do the same things as starters. Just not as well. I can understand having to make a couple of adjustments. But to have to recreate a game plan, that was lacking in inspiration to begin with, is just too much for this coaching staff. I've seen coaches do more with less. We did have a strong looking roster to start the year. Injuries have hurt us but it's possible that the coaching has hurts us more.
Doug Marrone is one of the very best offensive line coaches to have coach in the NFL over the past couple of decades. Did he forget how to coach, as well? Very curious.
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