Marcus Davenport

K Major · 02-03-2023, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

... although Granderson is coming around.

Facts.

And with the new hire of Todd G, that's a plus.

Rugby Saint II · 02-03-2023, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Back on topic ...

If Davenport leaves in Free agency, so be it. One less player we have to see on the weekly injury reports.

I'd rather the Saints focus on the DT position. Other than David Onyemata and Cam, everyone else is replaceable in my opinion. Upgrades are needed and necessary.

We definitely need a run stopper that can get some pressure in the backfield to match up with David Onyemata, who is no spring chicken, to help find some kind of pass rush and run stopper.

FinSaint · 02-03-2023, 05:21 PM

Use the 1st round pick on the best DT available or the best guard to replace Peat.

halloween 65 · 02-03-2023, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Use the 1st round pick on the best DT available or the best guard to replace Peat.

Saika ika is a monster. Slim him down to around 325 to 330 and let him eat. Might get lucky in the second but I wouldn't take a chance.

K Major · 02-03-2023, 05:43 PM

Yes, Saika is a very large man.

I'd have concerns about his conditioning & and whether he can keep that weight down.

Rell&Gold · 02-03-2023, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Idk Rell. My only guess is that with 3 first round draft picks Cam, Davenport and Turner, they should have a better pass rush. Or maybe just with the talent we have there on the defensive line as a whole, they feel like there should’ve been more.

Hell with what we had for DBs I feel like there should’ve been more ints. I mean, the offense underperformed regardless of who was at QB imo. But some may say that Dalton wasn’t good enough and that was the problem. My opinion is that he was fine and did okay but our offense was just vanilla and didn’t seem to have very good plays. Everyone’s got an opinion man. Lol

They were 5th in sacks are you mad they weren't from the dline? Me personally doesn't matter who gets them Saints had 60 of them. Everyone has a holes too don't mean I want hear the non-sense that comes out of the hole too. No they don't they look at few stats and b*** and complain. Facts are this Davenport with ZERO sacks was the highest graded pass rusher on this team. That's not an opinion that's a fact. Facts are most of if not alot guys here don't care about wins they care about how the wins look. Salivating at Chris Olave and he underperformed dropped passes in critical situations and dropped tds. But because he's also with OROY the pick satisfies some egos around here. So since All opinions are welcome here's mine. Last year's draft was a miss and will cost the Saints more in the long run than Davenport ever could. Fans wanted a new face at WR and felt elated somehow Saints are still in the same boat if not worse. Some of You guys love stats so much they leave you blind. Since this is such an opinion friendly forum welcoming of all. Consider this the start of something new.

Rell&Gold · 02-03-2023, 08:47 PM

Drafted rookie wr in the first rnd and he out played by udrookie coming off a acl injury. Drafted Trevor Penning and only played heavy run packages or max protection plays. Alontae Taylor was the better of three so far. Eagles took our 2 first and Chauncey and are in the SB. Meanwhile Saints have CO up for OROY......Rookie LB Out for the year hopefully he can find a spot on the roster. Everyone is replaceable if you can find someone better. We shall see yall wanted Marxus Williams gone...done Want MT done Want Davenport gone done Some Want AK gone and Cam gone flip flop some damn much can't tell where they stand.

Rell&Gold · 02-03-2023, 08:52 PM

The standard is fraudulent Andy satisfied some of you ? Lls DA actually satisfied some of you Jameis had us 5-2 and yall were calling for his head Andy plays a Alex Smith role and he's the one you want carrying the torch? Guys grade players with their pom poms in mind if they don't like a player its probably he black or didn't do what the cheerleader wanted him do .......opinion that

jnormand · 02-03-2023, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

The standard is fraudulent Andy satisfied some of you ? Lls DA actually satisfied some of you Jameis had us 5-2 and yall were calling for his head Andy plays a Alex Smith role and he's the one you want carrying the torch? Guys grade players with their pom poms in mind if they don't like a player its probably he black or didn't do what the cheerleader wanted him do .......opinion that

I was trying to reason and show both sides of the coin with my previous replies. I hope you understand that. Your assertion that people didn’t want Jameis because he’s black was a little ridiculous. Especially seeing as how a large % of NFL players and Saints players are black. But hey that’s your opinion. On the flip, would you like it if someone told you that you just didn’t want Dalton because he’s white and you’d rather a black QB?

My opinion is that playing the race card to a bunch of fans that just want the team to win made you look ridiculous. Especially when you know very little about them, their families, lives or culture. You certainly lost some credibility with me. Not that it matters to you really.

But to each their own.

BakoSaint · 02-03-2023, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Well put, Rell. Passion is one of the things that make us "fans" or fanatics. And passionate debates are part of it. I believe what you are also trying to convey is that making every other (or more) post here the same passionate criticism of a certain player or coach or GM gets tiresome. Am I right here, Rell? Every subject turns into an attack on Michael Thomas, or Davenport, or Dennis Allen, or Sean Payton, Or Mickey Loomis. We get it. You hate these guys. Fine. But can we sometimes just talk Saints football without it constantly turning into the same old hate fest?

I don't hate Michael Thomas, Marcus Davenport, Dennis Allen, or Mickey Loomis. I would love to have a beer with them and eat some nachos. No hard feelings emotionally. Just that while we are having that beer and those nachos I would be really stoked if they were wearing Atlanta Falcons uniforms. Because the one thing that is emotional is that I prefer the Saints win games and the Falcons lose games. And I think that those people being part of the Falcons organization would help achieve that results, in terms of the leadership skills of Allen, the long term decision making of Loomis, and the health outlook of Thomas and Davenport. Its nothing personal. I don't think they are bad guys or get hurt on purpose. I just would prefer my team not be the one paying them when they do. I hate watching the Saints lose. As someone who hates watching the Saints lose, I cannot love the idea of every member the Saints organization who underperforms being given a second and third chance. The Patriots dynasty cut loose all kinds of their players when they feared they were passing their primes and the timing was not always perfect but no other team got more than 6 rings trying something else. So sorry if I don't want continuity at every role forever and that makes me a hater. I wanted continuity at every role for the Falcons when they had Matt Ryan, because I wanted them to have the same result forever as when they blew a 28-3 lead. For us, I want something different.

02-03-2023, 01:57 PM	#111
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by SmashMouth ... although Granderson is coming around. Facts. And with the new hire of Todd G, that's a plus. SmashMouth likes this.

02-03-2023, 04:29 PM	#112
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Back on topic ... If Davenport leaves in Free agency, so be it. One less player we have to see on the weekly injury reports. I'd rather the Saints focus on the DT position. Other than David Onyemata and Cam, everyone else is replaceable in my opinion. Upgrades are needed and necessary. We definitely need a run stopper that can get some pressure in the backfield to match up with David Onyemata, who is no spring chicken, to help find some kind of pass rush and run stopper. K Major likes this.
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02-03-2023, 05:21 PM	#113
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Marcus Davenport Use the 1st round pick on the best DT available or the best guard to replace Peat. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, halloween 65 and 2 others like this.

02-03-2023, 05:39 PM	#114
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by FinSaint Use the 1st round pick on the best DT available or the best guard to replace Peat. Saika ika is a monster. Slim him down to around 325 to 330 and let him eat. Might get lucky in the second but I wouldn't take a chance. K Major likes this.

02-03-2023, 05:43 PM	#115
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Yes, Saika is a very large man. I'd have concerns about his conditioning & and whether he can keep that weight down. jnormand likes this.

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02-03-2023, 08:36 PM	#116
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by jnormand Idk Rell. My only guess is that with 3 first round draft picks Cam, Davenport and Turner, they should have a better pass rush. Or maybe just with the talent we have there on the defensive line as a whole, they feel like there should’ve been more. Hell with what we had for DBs I feel like there should’ve been more ints. I mean, the offense underperformed regardless of who was at QB imo. But some may say that Dalton wasn’t good enough and that was the problem. My opinion is that he was fine and did okay but our offense was just vanilla and didn’t seem to have very good plays. Everyone’s got an opinion man. Lol They were 5th in sacks are you mad they weren't from the dline? Me personally doesn't matter who gets them Saints had 60 of them. Everyone has a holes too don't mean I want hear the non-sense that comes out of the hole too. No they don't they look at few stats and b*** and complain. Facts are this Davenport with ZERO sacks was the highest graded pass rusher on this team. That's not an opinion that's a fact. Facts are most of if not alot guys here don't care about wins they care about how the wins look. Salivating at Chris Olave and he underperformed dropped passes in critical situations and dropped tds. But because he's also with OROY the pick satisfies some egos around here. So since All opinions are welcome here's mine. Last year's draft was a miss and will cost the Saints more in the long run than Davenport ever could. Fans wanted a new face at WR and felt elated somehow Saints are still in the same boat if not worse. Some of You guys love stats so much they leave you blind. Since this is such an opinion friendly forum welcoming of all. Consider this the start of something new.

02-03-2023, 08:47 PM	#117
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Marcus Davenport Drafted rookie wr in the first rnd and he out played by udrookie coming off a acl injury. Drafted Trevor Penning and only played heavy run packages or max protection plays. Alontae Taylor was the better of three so far. Eagles took our 2 first and Chauncey and are in the SB. Meanwhile Saints have CO up for OROY......Rookie LB Out for the year hopefully he can find a spot on the roster. Everyone is replaceable if you can find someone better. We shall see yall wanted Marxus Williams gone...done Want MT done Want Davenport gone done Some Want AK gone and Cam gone flip flop some damn much can't tell where they stand.

02-03-2023, 08:52 PM	#118
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Marcus Davenport The standard is fraudulent Andy satisfied some of you ? Lls DA actually satisfied some of you Jameis had us 5-2 and yall were calling for his head Andy plays a Alex Smith role and he's the one you want carrying the torch? Guys grade players with their pom poms in mind if they don't like a player its probably he black or didn't do what the cheerleader wanted him do .......opinion that

02-03-2023, 09:26 PM	#119
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by Rell&Gold The standard is fraudulent Andy satisfied some of you ? Lls DA actually satisfied some of you Jameis had us 5-2 and yall were calling for his head Andy plays a Alex Smith role and he's the one you want carrying the torch? Guys grade players with their pom poms in mind if they don't like a player its probably he black or didn't do what the cheerleader wanted him do .......opinion that I was trying to reason and show both sides of the coin with my previous replies. I hope you understand that. Your assertion that people didn’t want Jameis because he’s black was a little ridiculous. Especially seeing as how a large % of NFL players and Saints players are black. But hey that’s your opinion. On the flip, would you like it if someone told you that you just didn’t want Dalton because he’s white and you’d rather a black QB? My opinion is that playing the race card to a bunch of fans that just want the team to win made you look ridiculous. Especially when you know very little about them, their families, lives or culture. You certainly lost some credibility with me. Not that it matters to you really. But to each their own.

02-03-2023, 09:59 PM	#120
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Well put, Rell. Passion is one of the things that make us "fans" or fanatics. And passionate debates are part of it. I believe what you are also trying to convey is that making every other (or more) post here the same passionate criticism of a certain player or coach or GM gets tiresome. Am I right here, Rell? Every subject turns into an attack on Michael Thomas, or Davenport, or Dennis Allen, or Sean Payton, Or Mickey Loomis. We get it. You hate these guys. Fine. But can we sometimes just talk Saints football without it constantly turning into the same old hate fest? I don't hate Michael Thomas, Marcus Davenport, Dennis Allen, or Mickey Loomis. I would love to have a beer with them and eat some nachos. No hard feelings emotionally. Just that while we are having that beer and those nachos I would be really stoked if they were wearing Atlanta Falcons uniforms. Because the one thing that is emotional is that I prefer the Saints win games and the Falcons lose games. And I think that those people being part of the Falcons organization would help achieve that results, in terms of the leadership skills of Allen, the long term decision making of Loomis, and the health outlook of Thomas and Davenport. Its nothing personal. I don't think they are bad guys or get hurt on purpose. I just would prefer my team not be the one paying them when they do. I hate watching the Saints lose. As someone who hates watching the Saints lose, I cannot love the idea of every member the Saints organization who underperforms being given a second and third chance. The Patriots dynasty cut loose all kinds of their players when they feared they were passing their primes and the timing was not always perfect but no other team got more than 6 rings trying something else. So sorry if I don't want continuity at every role forever and that makes me a hater. I wanted continuity at every role for the Falcons when they had Matt Ryan, because I wanted them to have the same result forever as when they blew a 28-3 lead. For us, I want something different. jnormand, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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