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SmashMouth 01-01-2023 03:02 PM

Observations from the Saints Win vs Eagles
 
Real good win on the road in what is typically a tough venue.

Where has this team been all year? Does it feel that it may have turned the corner? This is also the first time Coach DA has had this many wins in a row in his career. Eagles appeared to be in disbelief, perhaps even underestimated us.

We missed Lattimore way more than we realized.

Congratulations to Cameron Jordan on his career sack accomplishment in passing Ricky Jackson.

Slim playoff hopes still alive as the Reskins/Commanders lost today, even with Tampa winning in the closing moments against Carolina.

Let us enjoy this win on this the new year 2023.

Happy New Year, everybody!
May it be prosperous and bountiful for all of us, including the Saints!

Who Dat !

Pete 01-01-2023 03:04 PM

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So can we Still get in?

Sinner 01-01-2023 03:07 PM

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My observation is that this is bittersweet at this very sensitive (for me) time of season (end). So painful to be in this position, where a WIN against a good team today, means nearly nothing, and does nothing to erase the poorly coached, improperly trained batch of talented players' batch of bad moments that put us in this position.

SmashMouth 01-01-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 966440)
So can we Still get in?

As a potential wild card , crazy as it sounds .

cmike 01-01-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 966440)
So can we Still get in?

Washington lost, so a Packers loss keeps us alive. If Packers win, we’re done.

mapcow 01-01-2023 03:21 PM

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Either the Eagles did not play their game, or that was not the Saints football team on the field. I believe it to be the former,,,,, making this win even more pathetic :rofl::dunce:

Sinner 01-01-2023 03:38 PM

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We are not mathematically eliminated from the Playoffs. This is beyond Calculus. The simple Physics of a poorly coached, improperly conditioned, unsynchronized team of talented players (plus Taysom Hill) simply could not WIN enough to be a Contender this year. Ready for more of the same next season? I'm not.

WhoDat!656 01-01-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 966447)
Washington lost, so a Packers loss keeps us alive. If Packers win, we’re done.

I heard that the Bucs win knocked us out of the playoffs.

Rsanders24 01-01-2023 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 966455)
I heard that the Bucs win knocked us out of the playoffs.

Bucs win knocked us from winning the division…not the playoffs…

turbo_dog 01-01-2023 05:10 PM

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Couldn't watch today, so have to rely on the hightlights. Looked like a good mix of Taysom and Dalton. Love seeing Lattimore get that pick six.

Y'all still want Minshew?

neugey 01-01-2023 05:11 PM

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I only watched the box score and listened to the 4th. But this is probably going to be the win that saves DA's job. The players must want him to stay. But I still think we will need to interview other OC's. This game would have likely went to Eagles w/out Lattimore.

WhoDat!656 01-01-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 966447)
Washington lost, so a Packers loss keeps us alive. If Packers win, we’re done.

I threw up a little when I saw the Packers were playing the viQueens; I don't think I could want anything positive for that POS franchise even if it helps the Saints!

dizzle88 01-01-2023 05:29 PM

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Considering the turd the Vikings are conveniently laying Vs the Packers, we are done.

Sinner 01-01-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 966460)
I threw up a little when I saw the Packers were playing the viQueens; I don't think I could want anything positive for that POS franchise even if it helps the Saints!

No worries...

K Major 01-01-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 966461)
Considering the turd the Vikings are conveniently laying Vs the Packers, we are done.

Your assessment is accurate.

Big picture, the Saints have been “done” since the Cincy game.

Losing all of those close/winnable games came back to bite.

dizzle88 01-01-2023 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 966464)
Your assessment is accurate.

Big picture, the Saints have been “done” since the Cincy game.

Losing all of those close/winnable games came back to bite.

Indeed, we made so many teams look way better than they actually were. The Bucs being one of them.

rezburna 01-01-2023 05:44 PM

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Season is over. Mock draft time.

saintsfan1976 01-01-2023 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 966466)
Season is over. Mock draft time.

Hopefully Sean Payton signs soon after the regular season ends.

I want it to be Arizona and I want CJ Stroud.

SmashMouth 01-01-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 966466)
Season is over. Mock draft time.

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966468)
Hopefully Sean Payton signs soon after the regular season ends.

I want it to be Arizona and I want CJ Stroud.

Who is the best QB coming out ?

rezburna 01-01-2023 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 966470)
Who is the best QB coming out ?

I like Stroud. I like Hooker. I still like Levis a little bit.

The Dude 01-01-2023 08:17 PM

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Sucks. Been a tough year for me. Moved out to the middle of BFE 45 min away from the nearest gas station or any kind of civilization. The only people I have contact with are four coworkers and the occasional guest. Big culture shock and lifestyle adjustment. The Saints having a good year would have gone a long way towards helping me adjust. Hell even seeing improvement or a positive sign of things to come would have helped…
That being said, who were the bright spots this year? Who has developed or surprised. I really haven’t had the time to keep up. I know Olave is a beast, any surprises?

SmashMouth 01-01-2023 08:28 PM

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rezburna 01-01-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 966472)
Sucks. Been a tough year for me. Moved out to the middle of BFE 45 min away from the nearest gas station or any kind of civilization. The only people I have contact with are four coworkers and the occasional guest. Big culture shock and lifestyle adjustment. The Saints having a good year would have gone a long way towards helping me adjust. Hell even seeing improvement or a positive sign of things to come would have helped…
That being said, who were the bright spots this year? Who has developed or surprised. I really haven’t had the time to keep up. I know Olave is a beast, any surprises?

Kaden Ellis
Peter Werner
Alontae Taylor
Rashid Shaheed
Juwan Johnson

Those were the young, bright spots in my opinion. I liked the burst Eno Benjamin showed today as well. We gotta have that committee like we used to.

SmashMouth 01-01-2023 08:29 PM

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SmashMouth 01-01-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 966474)
Kaden Ellis
Peter Werner
Alontae Taylor
Rashid Shaheed
Juwan Johnson

Those were the young, bright spots in my opinion. I liked the burst Eno Benjamin showed today as well. We gotta have that committee like we used to.

Add Olave and Penning to that mix, despite his injury.

rezburna 01-01-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 966476)
Add Olave and Penning to that mix, despite his injury.

Olave was the best player on offense if you ask me. Dude is a dog.

SmashMouth 01-01-2023 08:32 PM

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Big_L 01-01-2023 09:59 PM

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I don’t remember his name, but the kid from Tulane impressed me.

BakoSaint 01-01-2023 10:00 PM

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I am happy we won. Dennis Allen is probably better than he was with the Raiders. I hope we win next week. But we really need to face the music this offseason, focus on unloading bad contracts, not trading future picks, and cleaning up our salary cap to give our young core a chance in 2024 and beyond. We may have the talent to make the playoffs in 2023 but we dont have the talent and cap space to go all the way while carrying albatross contracts like Peat and Thomas. We need to cut them no matter how big the cap hit. If they want to evaluate Dennis Allen further. Give him some adversity by using any cap we can generate to get out of those bad contracts not add more aging injury prone vets, and see if he can still coach scrappy like the panthers and falcons did this year and win some games while rebuilding a bit.

Also Gardner Minshew is not as good as Andy Dalton. We are better off drafting a mid round qb and hoping to strike gold than paying $15-20m/yr for known mediocrity.

FinSaint 01-02-2023 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 966476)
Add Olave and Penning to that mix, despite his injury.

I'd even add the much-maligned Ruiz to that list as he did improve a lot from last season - unfortunate he got injured and placed on the IR.

K Major 01-02-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 966478)

Shout out, no wait TRIPLE shout to Cam Jordan.

Not only this season but his ENTIRE body of work speaks for itself.

IMO this guy will walk into Canton first ballot :bng:.

MatthewT 01-02-2023 10:13 AM

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Nice game, still a lot of issues to sort out for 2023, but we shall celebrate this win and hope to win another against the Panthers next week!

One thing that stood out to me was Gardner Minshew. IMO, he did not look like the same guy from a couple years ago when he played for Jacksonville. His velocity and accuracy was very inconsistent throughout the game. I bring this up because I know he is a possible candidate to join the Saints next year, may want to rethink this one.

Rugby Saint II 01-02-2023 12:22 PM

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I was looking forward to see Gardner Minshew play football as I have not seen him recently. I know there were a lot of folks on here who wanted to bring him on board next year. I'm just curious if they still feel that way after watching the game.

saintsfan1976 01-02-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 966497)
I was looking forward to see Gardner Minshew play football as I have not seen him recently. I know there were a lot of folks on here who wanted to bring him on board next year. I'm just curious if they still feel that way after watching the game.


Dalton is our backup next season. We need a starting QB.

iceshack149 01-02-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966499)
Dalton is our backup next season. We need a starting QB.

Is he? Winston is signed through next season. Do the Saints drop him or re-sign Dalton. Do they have both next year?

Boston Saint 01-02-2023 02:32 PM

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1. Having Lattimore on the field is huge. Too bad he missed so much time this year.
2. Dalton is basically Matt Ryan with red hair. He makes some plays, but the INT and 2 of the sacks were all on him.
3. Saints have 2 great young WRs. Plus J Johnson.
4. Special teams did well. Good punts penning them deep. Hit the FGs and XPs.
5. T Hill is a player
6. Need help/depth at RB.
7. I may have overestimated Minshew.

papz 01-02-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 966497)
I was looking forward to see Gardner Minshew play football as I have not seen him recently. I know there were a lot of folks on here who wanted to bring him on board next year. I'm just curious if they still feel that way after watching the game.

Didn't watch the game so I can't really say. Jimmy G is probably the best option if we're not doing a rebuild but will probably cost the most. Minshew, Dalton, and Winston are just place fillers if we go the rebuild route. Honestly, it really doesn't matter who it is for the latter. Winston is under contract so it'll probably be him.

vpheughan 01-02-2023 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 966510)
Didn't watch the game so I can't really say. Jimmy G is probably the best option if we're not doing a rebuild but will probably cost the most. Minshew, Dalton, and Winston are just place fillers if we go the rebuild route. Honestly, it really doesn't matter who it is for the latter. Winston is under contract so it'll probably be him.

Jimmy G missed 23 games the past three years. He's the perfect QB for CGM!

BakoSaint 01-02-2023 11:29 PM

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Another option at QB is you keep your 2024 1st round pick, draft a qb this year in the 2nd or 3rd round, and if that qb does not pan out, suddenly the 2024 pick is very high in the 1st round. Meanwhile if they do pan out, they are much younger, cheaper, less injured, and more upside than garappalo or minshew etc.

jnormand 01-03-2023 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 966472)
Sucks. Been a tough year for me. Moved out to the middle of BFE 45 min away from the nearest gas station or any kind of civilization. The only people I have contact with are four coworkers and the occasional guest. Big culture shock and lifestyle adjustment. The Saints having a good year would have gone a long way towards helping me adjust. Hell even seeing improvement or a positive sign of things to come would have helped…
That being said, who were the bright spots this year? Who has developed or surprised. I really haven’t had the time to keep up. I know Olave is a beast, any surprises?

Sounds like a dream come true to me. I’m in a town of less than 7000 and can’t wait to get further out. Lol


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