Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Guys, there isn't any such thing as a bidding war for a coach. First there is an agreement to coach the team, then compensation to let that coach out of their current contract needs to be agreed upon. If that last step is never agreed upon, the coach under contract simply will not coach that team.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Only real missing piece i see is QB. We need an above average qb to manage not to take over the game. We have plenty of offensive weapons. We need someone like a Dilfer or Neil O’Donnell. Just put the ball in the right hands. Would love to see us go after White, Mac Jones or Daniel Jones.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

From the Saints perspective, true, but that means nothing if Payton doesn't want that job over another. In that case the Saints would have to accept less from someone else ... or nothing and not trade his rights at all. Any deal the Saints broker for the rights will be totally dependent on Payton wanting the job. The Texans can offer three 1st's plus other picks, but if the best they can get from somewhere Payton wants to go is a 2nd and a 3rd, for example, then that's it or nothing.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Exactly. I've been trying to stress that very point.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

The QB's you are naming are basically Andy Dalton or Jameis Winston or less.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Dalton’s not costing us games. 1 INT in a few weeks now. He didn’t cost us the Bucs or 49er losses. Look at the dimes he threw to Kirkwood in -9 degree weather in Cleveland. Ball bouncing off JJ’s hands last week.
Now Andy’s isn’t perfect, he gets rattled when the pocket collapses around him. Absolutely UGLY.
He hasn’t had Payton running the offense. Pete just doesn’t know how to keep the O in rhythm.
Andy basically has two rookie receiver’s, a converted WR at TE and whatever RB is in the backfield on the play to catch passes.
AD’s play has been respectable.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

I read somewhere recently that he was number 7 in QB rating for the season.

He isn't a world beater, but he managed the games. The losses that doomed this team, were largely because other areas faltered.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Let's recap ...

Dalton was ranked:

21st in red zone efficiency
10th highest interception rate
24th in yards per game
22nd in points per game

That's a pretty bad game "manager" if you asked me.

The Saints need a QB and an OC if they want to have real success in 2023.

Perspective.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

They need an OC and a healthy offensive line. Those red zone numbers were affected more by penalties and dropped balls than anything Dalton did wrong. Yards per game and points per game are also more dependent on the offense as a whole than the QB. I'll give you interception rate. That one half against the Cardinals probably made the difference between top ten best to top ten worst.

And you are 100% correct ...

Perspective!

But, yes, they need a QB that can be elite. I don't see a free agent or an absolute slam dunk rookie that can be that. It may take years to a fully fill our wishes at QB.

Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea
 

Not being much of a Big10 fan, I'm inclined to allow those institutions to combine maximum hope with catastrophic disappointment. Harbaugh fills that requirement as a head coach for Michigan. Who would want that for the Saints? Just the history presented on this thread justifies a HARD PASS.