Potentially Available QB's for 2023
 

A nice list from which to work from spotrac.com.

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So all retreads and no new blood?

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I would like to draft a QB on the first or second day without utilizing future years 1st-2nd round picks to trade up.

But if we had to pick QBs from this list:

Mike White because he has shown high upside in his good performances and if we get a good qb coach this year or later maybe he has a high ceiling. I worry he gets injured easily though.

Jordan Love if he is cheap because we dont know how good he is or isnt. He probably has a chip on his shoulder from deaing with Aaron. I seem to remember that he did better in the preseason this year than in the past. I could see taking a flier if he is cheap.

Andy Dalton because we know he is ok in our system, if he is cheap.

I think Winston would benefit from going to KC or MIA etc as a backup and working with a QB guru. He is probably done but you cant ignore 2021 stats with a guru.

I think we need to rebuild therefore I dont want an expensive game manager like Garappalo or Tannehill. We are not that close to a ring that we should sell out the future to gain a sliver of an edge short term with a player who will get hurt and be a liability in later years. Unless their market tanks and they are cheap for 1 year like Dalton.

Jones is young but probably mediocre. If his market is very low and he could be cheap short term I am not opposed. But I think someone will pay for upside and I think there is a higher ceiling on a 2nd round pick while I am willing to accept a lower floor on said pick.

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Over the last month, the Saints rank in the bottom half for the worst offense in the NFL. After the Philly game, Dennis named Dalton as "efficient & a starter in this league" :rolleyes:.

Just another reason why the Saints are 7-9 & already eliminated from the postseason.

The thinking of this team's direction (player personnel) in 2023 with Allen is mind-boggling. This man is convinced he can win games with Dalton as QB.

2023 could be rough.

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I'm not supporting Dalton as our 2023 starter, K, but one must look at the lack of health of the offensive line and the playcalling of the offensive coordinator when evaluating the QB.

That said, Dalton does have the second best QB rating of his career this season (95.3 - the 11th best in the NFL this season) and has completed 67.1% of his passes, a career high and the 9th best in the NFL.

Once again, I hope we get something better, but Dalton has clearly well outperformed my expectations this season.

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They aren't including the draft possibilities. Personally I'd rather go with a veteran QB AND take a flyer on a rookie hoping we defy all odds and actually get one that can have a decent chance at starting someday.

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Payton to Arizona.

Top 5 Pick to Saints.

Welcome to New Orleans CJ Stroud.

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You really think Payton would want to go to the Cardinals? I can't see it. Murray just had reconstructive surgery on his knee. He's likely out for most of next season with the game he plays. I can kind of see Denver or San Diego, but Denver already gave up the boat for Russell.

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Just my opinion!

- Stable ownership. Second generation, family-owned (no minority invest)
- Dome
- Great weather
- Proximity to West Coast (daughter)

Sean Payton's quote (albeit non committal) “I think I know that family well enough,” Payton said of the Bidwill family.

- Draft capital

Round Selection
1. 4
2. 35
3. 68
3. 97
4. 105
5. 170
6. 179
6. 214
7. 222

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I can see where draft capital could interest the Saints, but not Payton. Anywhere he goes would have to give up very important draft capital just for his rights. Anywhere but the Saints themselves, of course. Payton also mentioned a good working relationship with the front office and a QB as two important factors. Not sure who meets both those "requirements".

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Sounds pretty good but I've heard a number of times that many of Kyler Murray's teammates don't like him. That's rumors and hearsay so perhaps there's no validity to it. If that is the case, Arizona would likely be inclined to keep the #4 pick to get another QB... Which might mean a trade involving Murray to the Saints...
Alright. That's enough. :microwave:

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Don't you dare! :doh:

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I was all in on CJ Stroud but the more I think about it if I’m the Saints brass I get as many 2024 first round picks for Payton I can and do everything you can to get Caleb Williams. I think he’s the next sure thing and could settle our qb situation for the next 10-15 years. Run with Andy and taysom one more year. Just an idea, but may be fools gold.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Carr or Mayfield under C, build around them. A good run game, a TE and better depth for the O. They could roll. Got to get the D fixed up front and the backfield. Wouldn't hurt to see another cover lb. either.

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I think the Saints best short term option is to move on from JW, bring back Andy and sign another veteran to compete with him for the starting job. There is no one on the list that I would break the bank for, including Lamar Jackson if he by some slim chance becomes available. I want to see the Saints draft a legitimate QB prospect in 2023, and would also like to see at least 1 free agent rookie land on the practice squad.

As for Sean Payton, I don't think he will come back to the Saints unless the front office wants DA gone. He would never push his friend out the door. I don't see him wanting anything to do with the Indy or Carolina jobs, I don't think he would touch Houston if it becomes open.

I think it will come down to two choices for SP. Denver of course is the obvious, and I believe they would gladly compensate the Saints with their 2023 draft pick that they obtained from the 49ers. The one that I think he would really jump on is the Arizona job if it opens up. I don't think Arizona will give up a #4 pick for him, but could see them packaging their 2nd round and a couple additional later picks as compensation.

The main reason I believe SP would jump on the Arizona job is their unique situation at QB and healthy salary cap. Kyler Murray is a great talent, and if there is any issue with his attitude SP should be able to fix that pretty quick. With that said, Murray of course will be coming off an ACL injury and likely not ready at the start of the season. That to me creates the perfect opportunity to bring in Tom Brady for the 2023 season, which will pump up their fan base tremendously and give SP the opportunity to instantly compete for a Super Bowl.

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I also would like to get Trask from the Bucs to compete. He wouldn't cost much. I like his arm.

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Trask is under contract with the Bucs through 2024. The Bucs drafted him in the 2nd round. Why would they trade him to a division rival especially since Brady is likely gone after this season?

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I might be a little intrigued by Jordan Love right now. I’d bring Jameis Winston back and let him compete for the job. If he loses he goes from an average starter to a great back up. I believe if we broke the bank on Lamar Jackson Payton would come back…but eh. I guess we’ll see.

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Crazy to me that some people are "ok" with an offense that averages 14 ppg. That is a direct result of Pete Carmichael :rolleyes: Total dysfunctional system.

As for Winston, he'll end up as a cap casualty in 2023.

IMO nothing will change until the coaching staff is re-shuffled. Otherwise, they could ruin a high draft pick at QB.

Again, I'm just a couch coach though :smokin:

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I'm not sure why, but I keep having visions of Payton as the Chicago Bears head coach. It goes against the warm weather theory, but he did grow up in Illinois and played at Eastern Illinois University.

I could see him want the challenge of bringing one of the most historic teams in the NFL back to greatness. They have a young QB who many think could be a star, and one who you could say is a better version of Taysom Hill.

The biggest problem is they just hired a new coach last year. But it's the NFL, which stand for 'not for long' if you don't win.

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You're not alone in that thought.

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I think Dalton will be the starter next year. Draft safety/DL and hope for much less injuries.

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Keep Dalton and Hill on the reasonable and INVEST in the offensive line. keep Defense if possible.

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I can absolutely support that, and draft a QB in mid rounds until we get a keeper. Use higher draft choices on more trustworthy positions.

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Is the Tulane QB worthy of consideration in the later rounds or even UDFA? He seems like he comes through in the clutch, even if his numbers aren't eye popping.

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No telling when actually facing NFL talent. So many that do "eye pop" end up being busts. I trust Jeff Ireland and his crew to take those gambles, but not in the earliest rounds.

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Keep Dalton if he is cheap.

Trade Hill to whoever Sean Payton coaches or whoever will take him. Hill is a very fun player to watch but his production is never consistent and tends to be against weak teams and defenses. Some float stats where we win if we use him enough, but the truth is we use him enough when we get more than 1 yard and a cloud of dust attempting to use him, and against better defenses we would not do well getting 1 yard and cloud of dust more times. Also unfortunately Hill is too old for a running QB or Tight End with his playing style and will not be reliable. He is a fun player, I agree, but he is a fragile novelty when we need depth, durability, and youth.

Draft a QB without trading up somewhere in round 1-4.

Cut Winston. He needs a QB guru coach if there is any chance.

Find a Lamont Murray replacement and don't put them on the practice squad.

Draft oline depth. Find the next Evans or Nicks in the middle rounds.

Consider moving Alvin Kamara at the 2023 trading deadline if we don't have a winning record and his suspension is behind him. As we develop a younger QB a more powerful running back might aid more in their development than a 4th or 5th option for passing.

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With whatever trade assets you have this year pick a quarterback and let Andy Dalton groom him. No, I don't want Andy Dalton starting but he is a good Bridge quarterback I believe. There are some quarterbacks available in the second round like Hendon Hooker that looks promising. I don't want to pay the money to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garoppolo or anybody else who will not be the future. Let's invest that money in young Talent.

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If you are gonna wait and draft a quarterback in the mid to late rounds give me Stetson Bennett. Kid is a winner, experienced, athletic and not the least bit rattled. You’re not wasting much buy getting him so if he doesn’t work out move on.

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Still showing loyalty

Gardner Minshew would be a fine bridge until Manning in 2026, or a prospect in 2023/24.

Mind you unless they get a new OC it's pointless

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I hope I am wrong but I worry we could bring in Tua if he decides to keep playing and the Dolphins cut or trade him. Other teams would be concerned with his injury history and concussions, but that is where Loomis comes in, the eternal optimist.

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Ain’t no way I’m seeing “keep Dalton”. 🤦🏽*♂️😂

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I'd like to draft a QB to start immediately. However Derek Carr and Lamar Jackson potentially being available, really intrigues me.

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I’m still predicting we will get a first rounder and more for Payton! We will get maybe a first rounder for Thomas! Then will trade up in the first round and take Bryce Young!

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Mr irrelevant looked pretty damn good today overall. Glad the Hawks lost, but my point is, we could sure use a little luck with a long shot like the Purdy kid. He has a solid cast around him but looked pretty good.

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I think the Saints would be lucky to get a 5th round pick for Thomas at this point.

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Maybe why you keep him for a year?

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Loomis did say this week that they are just wanting to get Thomas back on the field. That still leaves it all pretty open.

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Just read it would be really costly for the Saints if this were to occur.

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Unless they totally rework the contract. This would take Thomas willing to bet on himself and void the existing deal for a prove it one. I doubt that happens, but it is an option.