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jnormand 07-08-2023 03:48 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
AG, you can believe what you want. But my opinion is that he is no different than all the other people that are too afraid to stand up for what they believe in or what they feel is right for fear of being called racist. Being torn apart and scorned by the press and vilified on social media.

He was absolutely justified in believing what he believed and had the right to his own opinion about kneeling. His teammates turned on him because he didn’t agree with them.

I don’t blame Drew for doing the whole public apology. He was at the end of his career. He wanted his team to stay a team. But I don’t believe for a second that any of the BS he put out there was anything more than just back tracking because he was being unfairly vilified and backstabbed by teammates. He conformed to save what little bit of his career he had left. In essence, he caved. Just like everyone else does when they don’t agree with the mob. Eventually they just get right in line for fear of being unjustly crucified. There is nothing righteous about that. It’s terrifying.

But hey, you have the right to your opinion. That was just mine.

AsylumGuido 07-08-2023 04:11 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 975791)
AG, you can believe what you want. But my opinion is that he is no different than all the other people that are too afraid to stand up for what they believe in or what they feel is right for fear of being called racist. Being torn apart and scorned by the press and vilified on social media.

He was absolutely justified in believing what he believed and had the right to his own opinion about kneeling. His teammates turned on him because he didn’t agree with them.

I don’t blame Drew for doing the whole public apology. He was at the end of his career. He wanted his team to stay a team. But I don’t believe for a second that any of the BS he put out there was anything more than just back tracking because he was being unfairly vilified and backstabbed by teammates. He conformed to save what little bit of his career he had left. In essence, he caved. Just like everyone else does when they don’t agree with the mob. Eventually they just get right in line for fear of being unjustly crucified. There is nothing righteous about that. It’s terrifying.

But hey, you have the right to your opinion. That was just mine.

And you have the right to believe what you wish. We all project how we would react, I suppose, and expect others to have the same or similar reactions. I guess I give Brees far more credit than you and some others appear to give him. I try to expect the best out of people. I believe that Brees has far more character than you seem to acknowledge. There's probably lots of reasons behind our differences in perception. My father always taught me to look for the best in every person and I take that to heart. In your line of work (I believe you have mentioned you are in law enforcement?), and perhaps in your upbringing, you may have learned to be less trusting and more cynical. And I'm not meaning cynical as any sort of insult, either.

Rugby Saint II 07-08-2023 04:21 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975742)
Did you read above what he said? What part of that was "raking him over the coals", Rugs? Thomas only made two comments in reference to the whole thing.

"He don’t know no better." <--- That's telling others that he believed Brees didn't understand the issue. That's actually defending Brees who had already received flack from others by that time including Malcolm Jenkins.

"We don’t care if you don’t agree and whoever else how about that." <--- This was not directed at Brees directly but at others who had commented on the subject. The lack of correct punctuation makes it hard to understand. To make it more clear, "We don’t care if you don’t agree, and whoever else (doesn't agree). How about that?"

To the best of my knowledge that's all that Thomas ever said that could be tied to Brees' interview answer. This was so blown out of proportion. I believe that's what Big_L was trying to point out earlier in this thread. People were blasting Thomas over things they thought he said without ever even knowing what he did, or more precisely didn't say.

I stand corrected! Drew Brees said "We still have a long way to go. But, I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart, is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together, we can all do better and we are part of the solution."

Thomas did say "he don't know no better. And We don't care if you don't agree and whoever else agree about that."

Personally, I like to settle my differences in private. Away from the public eye and misconceptions. Let me clarify that I don't really care what Michael Thomas thinks. He doesn't care what Drew or I think. So, that's only fair.

AsylumGuido 07-08-2023 04:24 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
I've got a question for you, jnormand. In what way was Brees supposedly backstabbed by Michael Thomas in your opinion? Thomas had made only two public statements concerning the issue. The first was protecting his QB from other's attacks by saying that Brees didn't understand the reason behind the protests. In the second he pointed out that there were others that also didn't understand.

AsylumGuido 07-08-2023 04:27 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 975793)
I stand corrected! Drew Brees said "We still have a long way to go. But, I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart, is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together, we can all do better and we are part of the solution."

Thomas did say "he don't know no better. And We don't care if you don't agree and whoever else agree about that."

Personally, I like to settle my differences in private. Away from the public eye and misconceptions. Let me clarify that I don't really care what Michael Thomas thinks. He doesn't care what Drew or I think. So, that's only fair.

Yet they've moved on and remain close friends. I suggest we take their lead and do the same.

subguy 07-08-2023 04:37 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
The point is what anyone "felt" we won't ever know. We also won't know what was said in private, nor would we know the level of sincerity or any emotions behind any of the published comments. All we know is what was painted in the media.

Everyone's opinion should be respected, even though it is sometimes difficult when it doesn't align with our opinion. In today's environment we have lost the ability to say, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. We don't always agree with how the opinion is delivered but that is a totally different story.

AsylumGuido 07-08-2023 05:36 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 975796)
The point is what anyone "felt" we won't ever know. We also won't know what was said in private, nor would we know the level of sincerity or any emotions behind any of the published comments. All we know is what was painted in the media.

Everyone's opinion should be respected, even though it is sometimes difficult when it doesn't align with our opinion. In today's environment we have lost the ability to say, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. We don't always agree with how the opinion is delivered but that is a totally different story.

Can't disagree with any of that, sub.

Boston Saint 07-09-2023 12:30 AM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
Disagree with my opinions!!?? I’m your huckleberry.


BakoSaint 07-09-2023 08:13 AM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
Lets all debate whether Cie Grant is woke and where he stands on BLM because thats equally relevent on the field given their similar durability.

Big_L 07-09-2023 12:22 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
What do you mean by “woke”?


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