Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

I don't think there's anyway that the Saints would, or could, prevent Payton from getting a job. Everyone that he's interviewing (yes, he is interviewing the teams, not the other way around) has already agreed to the basics of compensation for his rights.

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

Easy there saintsfan you know AG always has to be the smartest man in the room

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

I understand that, but they can agree all day on terms and if Payton doesn’t like the terms it’s a no go and everyone misses out. That gives Payton the most leverage. That’s the main point I was making.
When he said ‘if the situation is right’, part of that is not getting ass raped by a ton of picks by the Saints from his new team, including high value picks. He’ll just wait it out…He’s not stupid.
I was hopeful at first but starting to think maybe we won’t get what we feel he’s worth unfortunately

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

I think you are missing the point that the terms have already been decided. That why he knows it will only include a mid to late round first along with other picks. The Saints are going to get what he's worth. It may not be some unrealistic value that fans expect, however. Some fans expect what the Raiders got while raping Tampa Bay. That was plain stupid. I think everyone now knows that isn't going to happen.

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

Totally understand that. Not missing the point, just making my own

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

And you are correct. We won't get what fans think he's worth. We'll get what is is actually worth.

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

How is it that people vehemently profess otherwise but continue to explain how the team has the power in this situation?

• Who grants permission for interviews? Team
  
• Who gets to decide the transaction cost? Team by letting interested teams know what it will cost to allow the contract to be broken. This narrows a coaches possibilities.
  
• Who has full veto power over any deal? Team

Because on paper the TEAM holds all the power.

I have done this for a living so I will share my experience with negotiations... The party that has the least leverage is always the more desperate party. In Sean Payton's case the team has all the power but ownership, management, and fans have imposed desperation on themselves and that nullifies their leverage. This is a cognitive bias called "Loss Aversion", the fear of getting nothing, and it is what makes people accept bad deals.

Loss Aversion makes fans feel like we absolutely must get something for Sean Payton, and that is what will lead to accepting an outcome below perceived market value. He is a sunk cost that doesn't effect our cap, and you can not lose what you do not possess.:bng:

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

It's a big compromise between all parties involved. The Saints aren't stuck in a corner with a tube of lube just waiting to get taken advantaged of. That only happens when you have nothing to bargain with.


The point some are trying to make is not about who carries the most leverage in this situation, but saying the fact we have little to none just doesn't make any sense. We own the rights to the biggest chip in the deal and that counts for something. We're all incentivized to make a deal.

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

Exactly. That's why we are going to get a decent, fair deal. We aren't going to get anything ridiculous like multiple 1st's. We don't have that much leverage to get it if the team he wants to go to doesn't feel he's worth it. But this is all moot. Each team interested has already been told the same basic thing as far as compensation and all that were granted interviews agreed to those preliminary terms.

Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton
 

Sean's shopping trip continues.