What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB?

SmashMouth · 02-22-2023, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

My boy! We might have to take him in the 1st! He's getting popular!

Originally Posted by K Major

+1. Apparently he's on track (health) for the start of training camp.

If the Saints feel as though he's your guy, just take him @ 29. I tend to think we need to beef up the interior D line but wouldn't hate QB as the pick.

Hooker could flop OR end up as the next franchise QB.

IMO he'll be there in the 2nd round but what the hell do I know? I'm just an above-average couch coach

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'm right there with you. It's time we take a QB in the first.

With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE.

I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too.

What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux?

rezburna · 02-22-2023, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE.

I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too.

What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux?

I'm much higher on Hooker. I believe McKee is climbing boards because of his size, but he's always thrown half as many picks as he has TDs, he's never thrown for more than 15 TD's in a college season, and he's relatively immobile in an NFL where you have to be able to move at least a little bit. Hooker is the much better prospect in my opinion.

rezburna · 02-22-2023, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE.

I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too.

What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux?

Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud.

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2023, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE.

I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too.

What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux?

Let's not forget that those mocks are being done by people that know little to nothing about these players. Tim's brother's wife's hairdresser's cousin, Simon, said he heard McKee likes the color blue. Tennessee picks him in Tim's mock in the second round.

Rugby Saint II · 02-22-2023, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud.

I'm beginning to wonder if he would be there at pick number 40. I would hate to not pick him in the first round and then miss on the 5th year option if he's good. But would we need to move up in the second round to get him? That's what worries me. Throwing away more draft picks.

SmashMouth · 02-22-2023, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'm much higher on Hooker. I believe McKee is climbing boards because of his size, but he's always thrown half as many picks as he has TDs, he's never thrown for more than 15 TD's in a college season, and he's relatively immobile in an NFL where you have to be able to move at least a little bit. Hooker is the much better prospect in my opinion.

Big Ben College stats

Tanner McKee college stats

Big Ben's last year was way better, obviously. Other than that pretty similar numbers. Tanner didn't play much his first year. So maybe it could be analyzed as getting Tanner on the cheap since it's year three of Big Ben that elevated him.

Originally Posted by rezburna

Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud.

Stroud feels like yet another Ohio St QB bust waiting to happen. He has real good WRs making him look way better than he actually is , IMHO.
Ohio St tries to claim BDJ. But they (Urban Meyer) whiffed on him.

K Major · 02-22-2023, 01:17 PM

Sometimes you just never know what you'll get at QB (1st round) but at some point, you just gotta trust your scouts & take a chance.

I remember some of these so-called "experts" were labeling Patrick Mahomes as the next Jay Cutler coming out of college.

Ha !.

If the tools are there, coach em up

.

rezburna · 02-22-2023, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Big Ben College stats

Tanner McKee college stats

Big Ben's last year was way better, obviously. Other than that pretty similar numbers. Tanner didn't play much his first year. So maybe it could be analyzed as getting Tanner on the cheap since it's year three of Big Ben that elevated him.

Stroud feels like yet another Ohio St QB bust waiting to happen. He has real good WRs making him look way better than he actually is , IMHO.
Ohio St tries to claim BDJ. But they (Urban Meyer) whiffed on him.

I don't really see the similarities between McKee and Big Ben personally. I think he's more Brock Osweiler or Mike Glennon than Big Ben.

As far as Stroud, I can understand the apprehension. He's definitely surrounded by a lot of talent, but the kid is gifted. I would have loved to have seen him here under Sean Payton.

SmashMouth · 02-22-2023, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Sometimes you just never know what you'll get at QB (1st round) but at some point, you just gotta trust your scouts & take a chance.

I remember some of these so-called "experts" were labeling Patrick Mahomes as the next Jay Cutler coming out of college.

Ha !.

If the tools are there, coach em up .

Even in the 7th round as SF did last year...

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2023, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Even in the 7th round as SF did last year...

Purdy lucked into a system with three matchup nightmares on offense and one of the very best defenses in the league. He wasn't asked to do any more than not screw up. He did no more than what Bridgewater did for the Saints when he filled in. I just heard they postponed his elbow surgery until March today. They don't even know if it is going to take full reconstruction which has ended more than a few careers.

02-22-2023, 12:35 PM	#181
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,104 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by rezburna My boy! We might have to take him in the 1st! He's getting popular! Originally Posted by K Major +1. Apparently he's on track (health) for the start of training camp. If the Saints feel as though he's your guy, just take him @ 29. I tend to think we need to beef up the interior D line but wouldn't hate QB as the pick. Hooker could flop OR end up as the next franchise QB. IMO he'll be there in the 2nd round but what the hell do I know? I'm just an above-average couch coach Originally Posted by rezburna I'm right there with you. It's time we take a QB in the first. With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE. I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too. What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux? K Major likes this.

02-22-2023, 12:43 PM	#182
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,678	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE. I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too. What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux? I'm much higher on Hooker. I believe McKee is climbing boards because of his size, but he's always thrown half as many picks as he has TDs, he's never thrown for more than 15 TD's in a college season, and he's relatively immobile in an NFL where you have to be able to move at least a little bit. Hooker is the much better prospect in my opinion. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

02-22-2023, 12:48 PM	#183
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,678	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE. I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too. What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux? Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

02-22-2023, 12:49 PM	#184
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth With McKee gaining in popularity as well, methinks he'll be there at both 29 and 40, but not later. And yes, we do need a TE. I have been redoing mocks, and the results show McKee moving up the charts. Not sure he is worthy. But one can't argue with his stature, Ben Roethlisbberger-esque. Seems to read quickly too. What say you... Hooker or Big Ben part deux? Let's not forget that those mocks are being done by people that know little to nothing about these players. Tim's brother's wife's hairdresser's cousin, Simon, said he heard McKee likes the color blue. Tennessee picks him in Tim's mock in the second round. SmashMouth and cmike like this.

02-22-2023, 12:53 PM	#185
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by rezburna Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud. I'm beginning to wonder if he would be there at pick number 40. I would hate to not pick him in the first round and then miss on the 5th year option if he's good. But would we need to move up in the second round to get him? That's what worries me. Throwing away more draft picks.

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02-22-2023, 01:00 PM	#186
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,104 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by rezburna I'm much higher on Hooker. I believe McKee is climbing boards because of his size, but he's always thrown half as many picks as he has TDs, he's never thrown for more than 15 TD's in a college season, and he's relatively immobile in an NFL where you have to be able to move at least a little bit. Hooker is the much better prospect in my opinion. Big Ben College stats Tanner McKee college stats Big Ben's last year was way better, obviously. Other than that pretty similar numbers. Tanner didn't play much his first year. So maybe it could be analyzed as getting Tanner on the cheap since it's year three of Big Ben that elevated him. Originally Posted by rezburna Let me say this, if I was an NFL team and Hooker never got hurt last year, I'm taking #1 overall. Either him or CJ Stroud. Stroud feels like yet another Ohio St QB bust waiting to happen. He has real good WRs making him look way better than he actually is , IMHO. Ohio St tries to claim BDJ. But they (Urban Meyer) whiffed on him.

02-22-2023, 01:17 PM	#187
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,065 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Sometimes you just never know what you'll get at QB (1st round) but at some point, you just gotta trust your scouts & take a chance. I remember some of these so-called "experts" were labeling Patrick Mahomes as the next Jay Cutler coming out of college. Ha !. If the tools are there, coach em up . SmashMouth likes this.

02-22-2023, 01:21 PM	#188
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,678	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Big Ben College stats Tanner McKee college stats Big Ben's last year was way better, obviously. Other than that pretty similar numbers. Tanner didn't play much his first year. So maybe it could be analyzed as getting Tanner on the cheap since it's year three of Big Ben that elevated him. Stroud feels like yet another Ohio St QB bust waiting to happen. He has real good WRs making him look way better than he actually is , IMHO. Ohio St tries to claim BDJ. But they (Urban Meyer) whiffed on him. I don't really see the similarities between McKee and Big Ben personally. I think he's more Brock Osweiler or Mike Glennon than Big Ben. As far as Stroud, I can understand the apprehension. He's definitely surrounded by a lot of talent, but the kid is gifted. I would have loved to have seen him here under Sean Payton.

02-22-2023, 01:22 PM	#189
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,104 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major Sometimes you just never know what you'll get at QB (1st round) but at some point, you just gotta trust your scouts & take a chance. I remember some of these so-called "experts" were labeling Patrick Mahomes as the next Jay Cutler coming out of college. Ha !. If the tools are there, coach em up . Even in the 7th round as SF did last year... K Major likes this.

02-22-2023, 02:34 PM	#190
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Even in the 7th round as SF did last year... Purdy lucked into a system with three matchup nightmares on offense and one of the very best defenses in the league. He wasn't asked to do any more than not screw up. He did no more than what Bridgewater did for the Saints when he filled in. I just heard they postponed his elbow surgery until March today. They don't even know if it is going to take full reconstruction which has ended more than a few careers.