Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure

Rugby Saint II · 02-26-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Without it... I am sure you would starve.

Good one. I might have to go back and freshen up on my third grade comebacks. Anyway, Back to Football, I could see the Saints drafting a complimentary running back this year and his replacement next year when the Cap hit is lower.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2023, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing.

Probably the product of misery within their own lives or something of the sort.

Rugby Saint II · 02-26-2023, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing.

Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today.

But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2023, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today.

But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract.

A healthy percentage of that "playoff caliber" roster was on the sideline in knee braces and walking boots. Not to mention nursing a half a dozen fractures within the vertebrae.

dizzle88 · 02-26-2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today.

But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract.

Agreed.

I'm sick of this "push it down the road" mentality that our front office has when it comes to the salaries of players.

rezburna · 02-26-2023, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today.

But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract.

I don’t mind the contract restructuring. My only gripe is the coaching staff and continuing to try and run Payton’s scheme with no Payton.

SmashMouth · 02-26-2023, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed.

I'm sick of this "push it down the road" mentality that our front office has when it comes to the salaries of players.

How do they handle the soccer leagues and so on?

iceshack149 · 02-26-2023, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing.

You and Guido are diluting the word "hate". Most of us are irrationally emotional about this team and become frustrated when things don't come up roses.
Keep in mind, the men that play football for the New Orleans Saints have no idea who we are nor do they care.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2023, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

You and Guido are diluting the word "hate". Most of us are irrationally emotional about this team and become frustrated when things don't come up roses.
Keep in mind, the men that play football for the New Orleans Saints have no idea who we are nor do they care.

For you and others it probably isn't personal. For a few it is clearly personal. "Hatred" is a very accurate description of what they routinely display.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2023, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

How do they handle the soccer leagues and so on?

There is no salary cap in most professional soccer leagues around the world so the accounting for salaries doesn't require maximizing the value against the rising cap. The MLS does have a salary cap, but they do not have the ever expanding revenues of the NFL so the cap growth is minimal. Yet, it does appear to increase every year, but not by enough to leverage the present versus future value as you can in the NFL. Their 2023 cap is also only around $5.2 million "with an additional $1.9 million available in General Allocation Money (GAM) and $2.7 million in Targeted Allocation Money (TAM). There are also both minimum and maximum wages for individual players set annually by the league."

02-26-2023, 12:33 PM	#21
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by mapcow Without it... I am sure you would starve. Good one. I might have to go back and freshen up on my third grade comebacks. Anyway, Back to Football, I could see the Saints drafting a complimentary running back this year and his replacement next year when the Cap hit is lower.

02-26-2023, 12:34 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by rezburna The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing. Probably the product of misery within their own lives or something of the sort.

02-26-2023, 12:51 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by rezburna The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing. Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today. But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract. dizzle88 likes this.
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02-26-2023, 12:56 PM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today. But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract. A healthy percentage of that "playoff caliber" roster was on the sideline in knee braces and walking boots. Not to mention nursing a half a dozen fractures within the vertebrae.

02-26-2023, 12:58 PM	#25
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today. But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract. Agreed. I'm sick of this "push it down the road" mentality that our front office has when it comes to the salaries of players. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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02-26-2023, 01:08 PM	#26
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,678	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Many fans are just so disappointed with the coaching last year that led us to a 7-10 record when Dennis Allen was handed a playoff caliber team. I look forward to the combine and draft when expectations will again be high. Personally, I am going to start looking for the silver lining as of today. But the front office is still open for criticism and I'm still disappointed in Dennis Allen and the front office for trying to continue with Sean Payton's system when he is not here to run it. The front office is still running the team like Drew Brees and Sean Payton were here and trying to win now while moving all money forward to the future where it will come due on aging unproductive players at the end of their contract. I don’t mind the contract restructuring. My only gripe is the coaching staff and continuing to try and run Payton’s scheme with no Payton. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,061 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agreed. I'm sick of this "push it down the road" mentality that our front office has when it comes to the salaries of players. How do they handle the soccer leagues and so on?

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by rezburna The hatred “fans” display for these players is amazing. You and Guido are diluting the word "hate". Most of us are irrationally emotional about this team and become frustrated when things don't come up roses. Keep in mind, the men that play football for the New Orleans Saints have no idea who we are nor do they care. Attached Thumbnails jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by iceshack149 You and Guido are diluting the word "hate". Most of us are irrationally emotional about this team and become frustrated when things don't come up roses. Keep in mind, the men that play football for the New Orleans Saints have no idea who we are nor do they care. For you and others it probably isn't personal. For a few it is clearly personal. "Hatred" is a very accurate description of what they routinely display. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Kamara Makes an Unintended Disclosure Originally Posted by SmashMouth How do they handle the soccer leagues and so on? There is no salary cap in most professional soccer leagues around the world so the accounting for salaries doesn't require maximizing the value against the rising cap. The MLS does have a salary cap, but they do not have the ever expanding revenues of the NFL so the cap growth is minimal. Yet, it does appear to increase every year, but not by enough to leverage the present versus future value as you can in the NFL. Their 2023 cap is also only around $5.2 million "with an additional $1.9 million available in General Allocation Money (GAM) and $2.7 million in Targeted Allocation Money (TAM). There are also both minimum and maximum wages for individual players set annually by the league."
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