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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by leilung Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL. I like it, but we didn't upgrade our run stopping game and we need to beef up the IDL before we go into the season ...

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Old 04-10-2023, 11:34 AM   #1
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Agreed. Speed rusher for the Right End. TE next. Then OL.
I like it, but we didn't upgrade our run stopping game and we need to beef up the IDL before we go into the season again with a weak interior rush. I agree that we need a speed rusher, someone to contain mobile QB's, but I'd counter with an interior lineman who can collapse the pocket and get pressure on the QB.

Derek Carr likes his TE's. We have JJ and Trautman but not much else behind them. Taysom isn't a TE. He's a weapon that defies a pigeonhole role. Give him another weapon in the draft. This is a deep TE draft iirc. Get one in the middle rounds and focus on the needs rather than the wants early in the draft.

We have a good RB room, but we may need to bring in a player with a similar style to AK, since his legal issues are likely to get him suspended this season. But it's a deep RB draft this year. Get a good RB in the third round. I believe that's where we drafted AK. We don't know what Benjamin offers yet, so give him some serious competition in training camp with a mid-round draft pick. Whoever it is they need to be able to pick up the blitz.

IOL, IDL, RB, TE, possession receiver to back up MT, and safety are my biggest concerns. We have the draft picks in the middle rounds to draft good players that fit the system if we don't give them away to trade up.

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Trade the thug for a decent honorable player.... let him beat up people and ruin another team's rep. Adios Alvin
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Trade the thug for a decent honorable player.... let him beat up people and ruin another team's rep. Adios Alvin
I believe in second chances. God knows, I've needed a few in my time. Kamara had a clean record before the Vegas beat down and I expect him to stay out of trouble from now on. It's not like he's a repeat offender.
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I believe in second chances. God knows, I've needed a few in my time. Kamara had a clean record before the Vegas beat down and I expect him to stay out of trouble from now on. It's not like he's a repeat offender.
Recent revealings show there may be more to the story, as is almost always the case. We shall see if a Perry Mason moment ensues.
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Old 04-11-2023, 01:08 PM   #5
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I believe in second chances. God knows, I've needed a few in my time. Kamara had a clean record before the Vegas beat down and I expect him to stay out of trouble from now on. It's not like he's a repeat offender.
Unfortunately father time does not believe in second chances. Kamara will be 28 before the season starts which is old for a RB. He has always been injured a few games a year so he is not the rare ultra-durable RB. His production has declines drastically since Brees retirement whereas for example McCaffrey was able to be productive with Carolina's musical chairs of lousy QBs. It's possible Kamara has a couple good years left, but smart GMs tend to buy low and sell high, and it makes sense for needed rebuilding to get value for Kamara while we can, or at least not push dollars down the road where we have to keep him past his prime and pay a giant dead cap when he retires after years of decline. The smart move would be that if Kamara has a few big games post-suspension, we trade him for value while we can.
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He has always been injured a few games a year so he is not the rare ultra-durable RB.

Kamara has played 13 games more than McCaffery who in the 2020 & 2021 seasons played a combined 10 games. Stat Wise they are the same Running Back.

Below are the career stats per the NFL. Spin them any way you want.

Christian McCaffery Gms Plyd 75 Yds 4726 YPC 4.7 TD 38 20+ 22

Alvin Kamara Gms Plyd 88 Yds 5135 YPC 4.5 TD 49 20+ 24
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He has always been injured a few games a year so he is not the rare ultra-durable RB.

Kamara has played 13 games more than McCaffery who in the 2020 & 2021 seasons played a combined 10 games. Stat Wise they are the same Running Back.

Below are the career stats per the NFL. Spin them any way you want.

Christian McCaffery Gms Plyd 75 Yds 4726 YPC 4.7 TD 38 20+ 22

Alvin Kamara Gms Plyd 88 Yds 5135 YPC 4.5 TD 49 20+ 24
I said Kamara was not ultra durable. Obviously he is more durable that Mr Glass McCaffrey.

Career stat wise they are the same running back. Year by year Kamara started hotter as a rookie and declined greatly in yards per attempt the last two years without Brees. Meanwhile McCaffrey had a mediocre rookie season but rushed his career average ypc last year and has never declined despite never having a Brees to play with and having many offenses like the 2021-2022 Saints ones.

Clearly McCaffrey is more injury prone, but there is more evidence Kamara’s skill is declining. Regardless, I would not like to be on the hook for lots of money to either one in their 30’s. Neither looks like an Adrian Peterson type who will outlast all their peers, and as we see with Jamaal Williams, running backs are a dime a dozen when they are no longer young and absolutely elite.
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I believe in second chances. God knows, I've needed a few in my time. Kamara had a clean record before the Vegas beat down and I expect him to stay out of trouble from now on. It's not like he's a repeat offender.
second chance to screw the pooch.... nope. Get rid of him. Pretty sure there is somebody better than him out there. regardless, no need for the drama and short sightedness of this animal. the thug makes MORE money than you and I will EVER make playing a game, and still acts the idiot/fool. Control your anger man....display it on the field with finesse
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I think we should stay put at 29 and hopefully an O lineman like Skoronski or Torrance will fall to us. That would be my ideal first. If neither are there then go with DL and possibly grab Mauch at 40. He’s projected to be a good fit a OG and is basically T Penning clone at the guard position from what I’ve read and would provide a nasty run game if it pans out.
When it comes to DL, I’m undecided what I want first between DE an DT if we go that route at 29 or 40.
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