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BakoSaint 03-16-2023 09:36 AM

Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick
 
Looking at the Saints offseason so far they have kicked the can on every dollar they can, down to retaining done-namic duo of Thomas and Peat just to push their cap hits out another year, which will put us in the same situation next year. There is no indication Loomis has changed in any way. Its possible we retain our 2024 1st rounder but I think any reasonable person would have to see the trend and realize a trade is more likely. Loomis had an opportunity to harm our teams future for something shiny in hand now, he will do it, it is who he is. He might even trade 2025. I expect we will be packaging the 2024 1st to move up in the draft. I hate it. But at some point I have to expect that as long as the clown is still running the show, the show is still going to be a circus.

SmashMouth 03-16-2023 09:42 AM

Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 971559)
Looking at the Saints offseason so far they have kicked the can on every dollar they can, down to retaining done-namic duo of Thomas and Peat just to push their cap hits out another year, which will put us in the same situation next year. There is no indication Loomis has changed in any way. Its possible we retain our 2024 1st rounder but I think any reasonable person would have to see the trend and realize a trade is more likely. Loomis had an opportunity to harm our teams future for something shiny in hand now, he will do it, it is who he is. He might even trade 2025. I expect we will be packaging the 2024 1st to move up in the draft. I hate it. But at some point I have to expect that as long as the clown is still running the show, the show is still going to be a circus.

Doubt it this year... but next year maybe. Not sure there is anyone worthy in this year's draft. And I hope they learned from the previous moves, like Davenport or Ingram. There won't be a Mahomes type this late in the draft. Maybe they move back from 29 and collect and extra number 2.

iceshack149 03-16-2023 10:38 AM

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Party at Bako's house this weekend...


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WW_Who_Dat 03-16-2023 11:07 AM

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Fantasy.

Rugby Saint II 03-22-2023 02:20 PM

Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick
 
That may be the one trick that Mickey/this old dog/ never learned. Loomis may have traded back once before Sean came on board. Since Payton joined trading down has been against the grain of the organization.

We have been drafting and developing a strong core of players along since free agency additions when Payton came on board. We were literally just a couple of players away from a championship run each year and targeting players was the acceptable practice for a championship run.

Those deep playoff runs and championships may still be ahead of us, and there is some serious optimism with our free agent acquisitions this year.
We have been trading away multiple draft picks for years to move up for a player we coveted to complete the roster. The results were a mixed bag of successes and failures.

Our ratio increased dramatically when Ireland joined the Saints at the Senior Bowl. He still struggles with D-line especially, but the O-line has produced less than desirable results too. Maybe we need to fucus in the draft on 100% healthy players with no injury history. I believe it's time to restock the shelves with quality backups and exceptional role players, which is where we were seriously lacking last year.

If we can move up for a DT or OG this year, I would be fine with that if the cost was only an additional mid to late round draft pick. Otherwise take the BPA and get the much-needed depth that we were missing last year.

saintsfan1976 03-22-2023 04:23 PM

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If the value is there, trade up. Why not.

K Major 03-22-2023 04:48 PM

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AsylumGuido 03-22-2023 04:57 PM

Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 971871)
That may be the one trick that Mickey/this old dog/ never learned. Loomis may have traded back once before Sean came on board. Since Payton joined trading down has been against the grain of the organization.

We have been drafting and developing a strong core of players along since free agency additions when Payton came on board. We were literally just a couple of players away from a championship run each year and targeting players was the acceptable practice for a championship run.

Those deep playoff runs and championships may still be ahead of us, and there is some serious optimism with our free agent acquisitions this year.
We have been trading away multiple draft picks for years to move up for a player we coveted to complete the roster. The results were a mixed bag of successes and failures.

Our ratio increased dramatically when Ireland joined the Saints at the Senior Bowl. He still struggles with D-line especially, but the O-line has produced less than desirable results too. Maybe we need to fucus in the draft on 100% healthy players with no injury history. I believe it's time to restock the shelves with quality backups and exceptional role players, which is where we were seriously lacking last year.

If we can move up for a DT or OG this year, I would be fine with that if the cost was only an additional mid to late round draft pick. Otherwise take the BPA and get the much-needed depth that we were missing last year.

Nope. Not even once. 25 trades as the Saints GM and all were up.

The Dude 03-24-2023 06:56 AM

Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 971559)
Looking at the Saints offseason so far they have kicked the can on every dollar they can, down to retaining done-namic duo of Thomas and Peat just to push their cap hits out another year, which will put us in the same situation next year. There is no indication Loomis has changed in any way. Its possible we retain our 2024 1st rounder but I think any reasonable person would have to see the trend and realize a trade is more likely. Loomis had an opportunity to harm our teams future for something shiny in hand now, he will do it, it is who he is. He might even trade 2025. I expect we will be packaging the 2024 1st to move up in the draft. I hate it. But at some point I have to expect that as long as the clown is still running the show, the show is still going to be a circus.

Every year it's the same **** and every year people *****. He started kicking the can for as long as I can remember. It never stops us from signing who we want and has yet to catch up with us. Bad FA signings and outrageous head scratching contracts (Peat) have been our Achilles heel. Some of our draft trades are questionable too but if Loomis wants to kick the can for the next 20 years it's fine by me.

AsylumGuido 03-24-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 971923)
Every year it's the same **** and every year people *****. He started kicking the can for as long as I can remember. It never stops us from signing who we want and has yet to catch up with us. Bad FA signings and outrageous head scratching contracts (Peat) have been our Achilles heel. Some of our draft trades are questionable too but if Loomis wants to kick the can for the next 20 years it's fine by me.

Exactly, Dude! And with the ever growing cap it can, and probably will, go on for the next 20 years. Even after Loomis is gone it will likely be the normal way of cap management in the entire league. A lot has been learned since the early 90's when the cap was first introduced.


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