Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-25-2023, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

And because the cap keeps going up, Michael Thomas and Andrus Peat will keep paying a lot of taxes until they die, because Mickey Loomis will never be willing to take the cap hit to cut them, when he can always take a fraction of that cap hit the current year by keep them, and setting up a larger cap hit to move on the next year. Retirement is not certain. Neither will ever retire unless Loomis leaves first, because they will always have an offer restructure and extend.

I think you're looking at this the wrong way. You think Loomis keeps these players because of cap management issues. I think the issue is much simpler than that:

If you cut Peat and Thomas (and the others whose cans have been kicked down the road) who do you replace them with?

I know that it was 3 years ago, but MT13 was the NFL OPTY, could have been NFL MVP, and was the best receiver on the planet. Who do you get that can give you even half that type of production.

Same for Peat. Are you really willing to hope that a 2nd year guy that barely played and a upcoming drafted rookie can hold up the left side of the Saints offensive line? Peat is more than serviceable at guard and can play tackle in a pinch. So, where exactly does that versatility get replaced with?

What will eventually happen is a mid round draft pick or a UDFA will come along and perform better than the current starter. Shaheed for example. Or maybe someone like Kidd may develop this upcoming season. Then and only then will you see some of that movement you are looking for.

But the players recognize the changing landscape. Both MT13 and Peat took pay cuts to continue to play for the Saints. If they didn't, they would both be free agents.

I'm just not sure what you think the Saints should do instead. Should they literally never keep a veteran and release everyone to free agency after the 4th or 5th year? The Saints are paying proven players market value and then renegotiating when performance or availability drops below market value.

All I see that that you seem to want to complain about how the Saints do business. I'd be really interested in seeing how you think business should be done instead.

SFIAH

03-25-2023, 08:04 PM	#11
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by BakoSaint And because the cap keeps going up, Michael Thomas and Andrus Peat will keep paying a lot of taxes until they die, because Mickey Loomis will never be willing to take the cap hit to cut them, when he can always take a fraction of that cap hit the current year by keep them, and setting up a larger cap hit to move on the next year. Retirement is not certain. Neither will ever retire unless Loomis leaves first, because they will always have an offer restructure and extend. I think you're looking at this the wrong way. You think Loomis keeps these players because of cap management issues. I think the issue is much simpler than that: If you cut Peat and Thomas (and the others whose cans have been kicked down the road) who do you replace them with? I know that it was 3 years ago, but MT13 was the NFL OPTY, could have been NFL MVP, and was the best receiver on the planet. Who do you get that can give you even half that type of production. Same for Peat. Are you really willing to hope that a 2nd year guy that barely played and a upcoming drafted rookie can hold up the left side of the Saints offensive line? Peat is more than serviceable at guard and can play tackle in a pinch. So, where exactly does that versatility get replaced with? What will eventually happen is a mid round draft pick or a UDFA will come along and perform better than the current starter. Shaheed for example. Or maybe someone like Kidd may develop this upcoming season. Then and only then will you see some of that movement you are looking for. But the players recognize the changing landscape. Both MT13 and Peat took pay cuts to continue to play for the Saints. If they didn't, they would both be free agents. I'm just not sure what you think the Saints should do instead. Should they literally never keep a veteran and release everyone to free agency after the 4th or 5th year? The Saints are paying proven players market value and then renegotiating when performance or availability drops below market value. All I see that that you seem to want to complain about how the Saints do business. I'd be really interested in seeing how you think business should be done instead. SFIAH leilung, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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