Draft Week - Final Picks

Boston Saint · 04-24-2023, 01:19 PM

I predict it’s DL, TE, RB in that order. Maybe:

Kancey from Pitt
Laporta from Iowa
Spears from Tulane

iceshack149 · 04-24-2023, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Trade-up scenarios make me nervous AF. Wish we could hijack the war room and make the picks, let Mickey and co. have the weekend off!

I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him.

Boston Saint · 04-24-2023, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him.

I was happy with last year’s draft and UDFA signings. We have 4 players expected to be big contributors.

iceshack149 · 04-24-2023, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I was happy with last year’s draft and UDFA signings.

Me too. I think that Ireland has made a huge difference for the Saints when it comes to drafting players.

SmashMouth · 04-24-2023, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The only guess I have is that the Saints will go from having eight picks in this draft to five.

I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones.

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2023, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones.

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

K Major · 04-24-2023, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him.

Agreed. Look no further than last season's 2022 draft. No way the Saints land Chris Olave if SP is still in that draft room & decision-making process.

He probably had his eye on some random small college kid with a red flag medical to play DE.

See Davenport & Payton Turner. IMO both were questionable reaches on Day 1.

jnormand · 04-24-2023, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The only guess I have is that the Saints will go from having eight picks in this draft to five.

Solid assessment sir! But you left out trading up and reaching for a player in the first or 2nd round that will undoubtedly be a project guy, someone that gets injured constantly or never really does anything except “flash.” My guess: A DE. Lol

SmashMouth · 04-24-2023, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little.

2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF.

I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal.

This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds.

cmike · 04-24-2023, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them.

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner

2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder)

2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder)

2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder)

2017 1 Marshon Lattimore
2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk
2017 2 Marcus Williams

2016 1 Sheldon Rankins
2016 2 Michael Thomas
2016 2 Vonn Bell

I’d like to take a moment and single out Payton Turner.
Payton is in the MT13 realm of football players. Payton has proved to be one of the most dominating players on the field when active and healthy. The difference is Mike had seasons where he proved he was top 5 at his position.
Payton’s been not so lucky. Just look at how he was injured last season. Payton was dominating the game and got injured after making an outstanding defensive play.
I’m far from giving up on either of them.

04-24-2023, 01:19 PM	#11
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks I predict it’s DL, TE, RB in that order. Maybe: Kancey from Pitt Laporta from Iowa Spears from Tulane

04-24-2023, 01:25 PM	#12
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,097 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by neugey Trade-up scenarios make me nervous AF. Wish we could hijack the war room and make the picks, let Mickey and co. have the weekend off! I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him. saintsfan1976, K Major and MarchingOn like this.

04-24-2023, 01:27 PM	#13
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by iceshack149 I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him. I was happy with last year’s draft and UDFA signings. We have 4 players expected to be big contributors. iceshack149 likes this.

04-24-2023, 01:29 PM	#14
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,097 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by Boston Saint I was happy with last year’s draft and UDFA signings. Me too. I think that Ireland has made a huge difference for the Saints when it comes to drafting players. K Major and Boston Saint like this.

04-24-2023, 02:51 PM	#15
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,107 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by iceshack149 The only guess I have is that the Saints will go from having eight picks in this draft to five. I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones. MarchingOn likes this.

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04-24-2023, 03:14 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by SmashMouth I hope it's the other way around. We seem to thrive of late unearthing gems with the middle rounders, thanks to Jeff Ireland. t's our earlier rounder picks that have disappointed other than the recent ones. I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell cmike likes this.
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04-24-2023, 03:21 PM	#17
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,065 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by iceshack149 I'm eager to see what Loomis and Ireland will do without Payton's input. I actually have more confidence in the draft process without Sean than with him. Agreed. Look no further than last season's 2022 draft. No way the Saints land Chris Olave if SP is still in that draft room & decision-making process. He probably had his eye on some random small college kid with a red flag medical to play DE. See Davenport & Payton Turner. IMO both were questionable reaches on Day 1. iceshack149 and Boston Saint like this.

04-24-2023, 03:35 PM	#18
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by iceshack149 The only guess I have is that the Saints will go from having eight picks in this draft to five. Solid assessment sir! But you left out trading up and reaching for a player in the first or 2nd round that will undoubtedly be a project guy, someone that gets injured constantly or never really does anything except “flash.” My guess: A DE. Lol

04-24-2023, 03:40 PM	#19
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,107 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell Davenport cost us TWO numbers ones... he was a mild bust and we used the following year's number 1 for him. Those stings a little. 2022 is looking good. Jury is still out on P Turner 2021. 2020 late bloom for Ruiz. 2029 NADA... see Davenport trade. 2017 was solid.. although they SP is carrying on about Mahomes, he makes it seem he was Nostradamus... if he was, then he effed up. 2016, what seemed like a no brainer at first glance, now looks like WTF. I know.. can't win them all. Hope springs eternal. This will be in reality the first draft sans SP influence. Let's see what unfolds.

04-24-2023, 03:41 PM	#20
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Draft Week - Final Picks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think you might be surprised. If you look at all of the Saints picks from rounds one and two over the past seven drafts you'll see that everyone of them have been starters except for Payton Turner and Trevor Penning and both of them could very well be starters this year. Injuries have delayed both of them. 2022 1 Chris Olave 2022 1 Trevor Penning 2022 2 Alontae Taylor 2021 1 Payton Turner 2021 2 Pete Werner 2020 1 Cesar Ruiz (no 2nd rounder) 2019 2 Erik McCoy (no 1st rounder) 2018 1 Marcus Davenport (no 2nd rounder) 2017 1 Marshon Lattimore 2017 1 Ryan Ramczyk 2017 2 Marcus Williams 2016 1 Sheldon Rankins 2016 2 Michael Thomas 2016 2 Vonn Bell I’d like to take a moment and single out Payton Turner. Payton is in the MT13 realm of football players. Payton has proved to be one of the most dominating players on the field when active and healthy. The difference is Mike had seasons where he proved he was top 5 at his position. Payton’s been not so lucky. Just look at how he was injured last season. Payton was dominating the game and got injured after making an outstanding defensive play. I’m far from giving up on either of them.