Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department

05-31-2023, 09:59 AM

The New Orleans Saints have parted ways with Ryan Herman, the top analytics researcher in the club's personnel department, multiple sources said Wednesday.

Herman wasn't well known to the public, but he was a valued member of the football operations staff as the head of the team's in-house analytics department. He supplied weekly analytical research studies to the coaching staff on statistical trends for the league and upcoming opponent.

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SmashMouth · 05-31-2023, 10:25 AM

K Major · 05-31-2023, 10:54 AM

His contract was up huh? Interesting.

Wonder if the Saint's front office brass took anything SP stated on analytics as gospel?

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2023, 11:47 AM

Explains part of why they parted ways. Family lives in Miami and he's been commuting to New Orleans.

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BakoSaint · 06-05-2023, 12:17 AM

After making a $100+ million bet on a mid-career QB turnaround story and making a high risk first round pick on a guy with minimal game tape betting on another turnaround story, its great to know that we feel so confident about the analytics element of both those decisions that we kept the guy leading them around for a few weeks before parting ways before the season even began.

If we thought this guy gave us such a big edge I am sure we could make it worth his while to move if we needed to. If we couldn't, can you think of any job that would be easier to do remotely than analytics? This guy could make graphs from Miami. Software runs in Miami. Its very very possible to present a chart and data table on zoom. Analytics is not hands on. Algorithms don't require a personal touch. Numbers can be emailed in many types of attachments. The most reasonable reading of this is that either we weren't confident in him even though he was just involved in crucial franchise altering decisions, or he does not feel confident in Saints management and wanted to distance himself, or there was a big disagreement and the team went against its own analytics in recent big moves and forced a breakup.

Rugby Saint II · 06-06-2023, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

After making a $100+ million bet on a mid-career QB turnaround story and making a high risk first round pick on a guy with minimal game tape betting on another turnaround story, its great to know that we feel so confident about the analytics element of both those decisions that we kept the guy leading them around for a few weeks before parting ways before the season even began.

If we thought this guy gave us such a big edge I am sure we could make it worth his while to move if we needed to. If we couldn't, can you think of any job that would be easier to do remotely than analytics? This guy could make graphs from Miami. Software runs in Miami. Its very very possible to present a chart and data table on zoom. Analytics is not hands on. Algorithms don't require a personal touch. Numbers can be emailed in many types of attachments. The most reasonable reading of this is that either we weren't confident in him even though he was just involved in crucial franchise altering decisions, or he does not feel confident in Saints management and wanted to distance himself, or there was a big disagreement and the team went against its own analytics in recent big moves and forced a breakup.

My guess is that Payton's comments on the Broncos analytics department hit deep with the franchise and they are looking to go in a new direction with a fresher approach to analytics. Out with the old and in with the new. The only constant is change.

AsylumGuido · 06-06-2023, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My guess is that Payton's comments on the Broncos analytics department hit deep with the franchise and they are looking to go in a new direction with a fresher approach to analytics. Out with the old and in with the new. The only constant is change.

I think the missus had more to do with his not renewing his contract than any difference in philosophy between the Saints and himself. LOL! She had to have been getting a bit tired of his commuting to and from Nola to their home in Miami.

BakoSaint · 06-06-2023, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think the missus had more to do with his not renewing his contract than any difference in philosophy between the Saints and himself. LOL! She had to have been getting a bit tired of his commuting to and from Nola to their home in Miami.

If Michael Thomas can do his job remotely, surely an analytics guy can? How much harder can it be to email a spreadsheet than to email a reception?

K Major · 06-06-2023, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

If Michael Thomas can do his job remotely, surely an analytics guy can? How much harder can it be to email a spreadsheet than to email a reception?

SmashMouth · 06-07-2023, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

If Michael Thomas can do his job remotely, surely an analytics guy can? How much harder can it be to email a spreadsheet than to email a reception?

Originally Posted by K Major

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department Explains part of why they parted ways. Family lives in Miami and he's been commuting to New Orleans. Twitter SmashMouth likes this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,759	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department After making a $100+ million bet on a mid-career QB turnaround story and making a high risk first round pick on a guy with minimal game tape betting on another turnaround story, its great to know that we feel so confident about the analytics element of both those decisions that we kept the guy leading them around for a few weeks before parting ways before the season even began. If we thought this guy gave us such a big edge I am sure we could make it worth his while to move if we needed to. If we couldn't, can you think of any job that would be easier to do remotely than analytics? This guy could make graphs from Miami. Software runs in Miami. Its very very possible to present a chart and data table on zoom. Analytics is not hands on. Algorithms don't require a personal touch. Numbers can be emailed in many types of attachments. The most reasonable reading of this is that either we weren't confident in him even though he was just involved in crucial franchise altering decisions, or he does not feel confident in Saints management and wanted to distance himself, or there was a big disagreement and the team went against its own analytics in recent big moves and forced a breakup. SmashMouth likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,739	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department Originally Posted by BakoSaint After making a $100+ million bet on a mid-career QB turnaround story and making a high risk first round pick on a guy with minimal game tape betting on another turnaround story, its great to know that we feel so confident about the analytics element of both those decisions that we kept the guy leading them around for a few weeks before parting ways before the season even began. If we thought this guy gave us such a big edge I am sure we could make it worth his while to move if we needed to. If we couldn't, can you think of any job that would be easier to do remotely than analytics? This guy could make graphs from Miami. Software runs in Miami. Its very very possible to present a chart and data table on zoom. Analytics is not hands on. Algorithms don't require a personal touch. Numbers can be emailed in many types of attachments. The most reasonable reading of this is that either we weren't confident in him even though he was just involved in crucial franchise altering decisions, or he does not feel confident in Saints management and wanted to distance himself, or there was a big disagreement and the team went against its own analytics in recent big moves and forced a breakup. My guess is that Payton's comments on the Broncos analytics department hit deep with the franchise and they are looking to go in a new direction with a fresher approach to analytics. Out with the old and in with the new. The only constant is change.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My guess is that Payton's comments on the Broncos analytics department hit deep with the franchise and they are looking to go in a new direction with a fresher approach to analytics. Out with the old and in with the new. The only constant is change. I think the missus had more to do with his not renewing his contract than any difference in philosophy between the Saints and himself. LOL! She had to have been getting a bit tired of his commuting to and from Nola to their home in Miami.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,759	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think the missus had more to do with his not renewing his contract than any difference in philosophy between the Saints and himself. LOL! She had to have been getting a bit tired of his commuting to and from Nola to their home in Miami. If Michael Thomas can do his job remotely, surely an analytics guy can? How much harder can it be to email a spreadsheet than to email a reception? SmashMouth likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,017 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints part ways with the top man in their analytics department Originally Posted by BakoSaint If Michael Thomas can do his job remotely, surely an analytics guy can? How much harder can it be to email a spreadsheet than to email a reception? Originally Posted by K Major Elon Musk agrees... Rugby Saint II likes this.