Your Breakout Player For 2023

iceshack149 · 06-08-2023, 03:15 PM

Kendre Miller due to Kamara's likely suspension
Andrew Dowell due to lack of LBs!

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2023, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I am looking forward to Krull's first TD in the Dome when the Dome is Rocking and yelling out Krull's name!

That would be cool. It's going to be tough getting playing time with Johnson, Moreau, Hill, and Jesse James all ahead of him on the depth chart coming into camp. That's a lot of experience and TD's scored to leap frog.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2023, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Kendre Miller due to Kamara's likely suspension
Andrew Dowell due to lack of LBs!

Dowell will be in competition for one of the two backup spots behind Davis and Werner, for sure this year. I know the team is really high on D'Marco Jackson who we drafted last year and Anfernee Orji, who we picked up as a UDFA this year. Both seem real intriguing. Not sure where Baun, Sewall, Summers, and the Tulane rookie, Nick Anderson come into play. We'll see come training camp with real pads and contact. We have practices scheduled now with both the Chargers and the Texans.

iceshack149 · 09-13-2023, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Honorable mention ...

Trevor Penning aka "nasty baby". If he's completely healed from turf toe, watch out.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm going to go with breakout player of the season since OTA/TC is so heavily regulated.

Lattimore
Penning

Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.

saintsfan1976 · 09-14-2023, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.

He has nowhere to go but UP!

Rugby Saint II · 09-14-2023, 01:05 PM

Right now, Shaheed looks like a safe bet for the Saints breakout player after the first game. Honorable mention- Juwan Johnson.

Derek Carr MVP.

AsylumGuido · 09-15-2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

He has nowhere to go but UP!

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BakoSaint · 09-15-2023, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/Jeff_Nowak/statu...54387871883614

The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls.

AsylumGuido · 09-15-2023, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls.

And exactly where and from whom did you hear that assessment? I'd be very interested to hear or read that myself. I'd make sure to share it with everyone else, as well!

Thanks in advance!

Boston Saint · 09-15-2023, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And exactly where and from whom did you hear that assessment? I'd be very interested to hear or read that myself. I'd make sure to share it with everyone else, as well!

Thanks in advance!

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06-08-2023, 03:15 PM	#21
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I am looking forward to Krull's first TD in the Dome when the Dome is Rocking and yelling out Krull's name! That would be cool. It's going to be tough getting playing time with Johnson, Moreau, Hill, and Jesse James all ahead of him on the depth chart coming into camp. That's a lot of experience and TD's scored to leap frog.

06-08-2023, 03:49 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by iceshack149 Kendre Miller due to Kamara's likely suspension Andrew Dowell due to lack of LBs! Dowell will be in competition for one of the two backup spots behind Davis and Werner, for sure this year. I know the team is really high on D'Marco Jackson who we drafted last year and Anfernee Orji, who we picked up as a UDFA this year. Both seem real intriguing. Not sure where Baun, Sewall, Summers, and the Tulane rookie, Nick Anderson come into play. We'll see come training camp with real pads and contact. We have practices scheduled now with both the Chargers and the Texans.

09-13-2023, 05:29 PM	#24
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,095 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by K Major Honorable mention ... Trevor Penning aka "nasty baby". If he's completely healed from turf toe, watch out. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm going to go with breakout player of the season since OTA/TC is so heavily regulated. Lattimore Penning Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Right now, Shaheed looks like a safe bet for the Saints breakout player after the first game. Honorable mention- Juwan Johnson. Derek Carr MVP. iceshack149, Crusader, leilung and 1 others like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by iceshack149 Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 He has nowhere to go but UP! Twitter iceshack149 likes this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/Jeff_Nowak/statu...54387871883614 The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls.
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09-15-2023, 04:21 PM	#29
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by BakoSaint The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls. And exactly where and from whom did you hear that assessment? I'd be very interested to hear or read that myself. I'd make sure to share it with everyone else, as well! Thanks in advance!