Your Breakout Player For 2023

Boston Saint · 09-20-2023, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He's come a long way from an UDFA. We need to keep him unlike what we did with Trey Hendrickson. Makes the experiment with Marcus way too expensive.

Speaking of Marcus, I was bummed at the juke that Young put on him late in the game to get about 15 extra yards on his scramble. Terrible play on his part that lead up to their only TD.

SmashMouth · 09-20-2023, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Speaking of Marcus, I was bummed at the juke that Young put on him late in the game to get about 15 extra yards on his scramble. Terrible play on his part that lead up to their only TD.

Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it?

Boston Saint · 09-20-2023, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it?

Yes it was. Still a Marcus.

SmashMouth · 09-20-2023, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it?

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Yes it was. Still a Marcus.

I sure hope he was scolded on that play ... He was practically a spectator rather than a participant.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Speaking of Marcus, I was bummed at the juke that Young put on him late in the game to get about 15 extra yards on his scramble. Terrible play on his part that lead up to their only TD.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I sure hope he was scolded on that play ... He was practically a spectator rather than a participant.

I believe it was Kirk Morrison, while talking about missed tackles, sometime last week said that sometimes the defender takes a bad angle or gets his feet out of position and truly misses the tackle. Then he said that there are simply times that the offensive player makes a move that will make the best of players miss. He said that you just need to give the offensive player credit. Morrison was one of the best tacklers in the game so he knows his stuff.

Here's the play. I'll give Young the credit on that one. I'd say the defender gets beat on that type of play a high percentage of the time.

Bryce Young rushes for a 26-yard Gain vs. New Orleans Saints - YouTube

SmashMouth · 09-20-2023, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I believe it was Kirk Morrison, while talking about missed tackles, sometime last week said that sometimes the defender takes a bad angle or gets his feet out of position and truly misses the tackle. Then he said that there are simply times that the offensive player makes a move that will make the best of players miss. He said that you just need to give the offensive player credit. Morrison was one of the best tacklers in the game so he knows his stuff.

Here's the play. I'll give Young the credit on that one. I'd say the defender gets beat on that type of play a high percentage of the time.

Bryce Young rushes for a 26-yard Gain vs. New Orleans Saints - YouTube

Respectfully disagree ... the video clearly shows it was Maye. He could've and should've stuck Young on a righteous tackle.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Respectfully disagree ... the video clearly shows it was Maye. He could've and should've stuck Young on a righteous tackle.

Oh, yes, it was definitely Maye. You put any defender out there in exactly the same position in the open field with Young at full speed and the defender will miss the majority of the time. If the ball carrier was Kamara they'd lose every time. That has to be the most difficult tackle to make in the game.

I'd like rezburna's input on that one. I'm sure he's been in that position more than once in his career.

If he had made the tackle it would have been a great one.

Boston Saint · 09-20-2023, 08:24 AM

I think he was expecting a QB slide.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think he was expecting a QB slide.

Good point. Very possible. Being a QB you would absolutely have to factor that into how you approach a hit. That's not a concern with other positions running the ball.

SmashMouth · 09-20-2023, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think he was expecting a QB slide.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Good point. Very possible. Being a QB you would absolutely have to factor that into how you approach a hit. That's not a concern with other positions running the ball.

Shouldn't they expect the unexpected as professionals? Would TJ Watt or Nick Bosa be so timid in a similar situation?

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09-20-2023, 07:17 AM	#41
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,876	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by SmashMouth He's come a long way from an UDFA. We need to keep him unlike what we did with Trey Hendrickson. Makes the experiment with Marcus way too expensive. Speaking of Marcus, I was bummed at the juke that Young put on him late in the game to get about 15 extra yards on his scramble. Terrible play on his part that lead up to their only TD.

09-20-2023, 07:20 AM	#42
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,069 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by Boston Saint Speaking of Marcus, I was bummed at the juke that Young put on him late in the game to get about 15 extra yards on his scramble. Terrible play on his part that lead up to their only TD. Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it?

09-20-2023, 07:33 AM	#43
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,876	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it? Yes it was. Still a Marcus.

09-20-2023, 07:47 AM	#44
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,069 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Wasn't it S Marcus Maye that whiffed on it? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Yes it was. Still a Marcus. I sure hope he was scolded on that play ... He was practically a spectator rather than a participant.

09-20-2023, 08:00 AM	#46
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,069 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I believe it was Kirk Morrison, while talking about missed tackles, sometime last week said that sometimes the defender takes a bad angle or gets his feet out of position and truly misses the tackle. Then he said that there are simply times that the offensive player makes a move that will make the best of players miss. He said that you just need to give the offensive player credit. Morrison was one of the best tacklers in the game so he knows his stuff. Here's the play. I'll give Young the credit on that one. I'd say the defender gets beat on that type of play a high percentage of the time. Bryce Young rushes for a 26-yard Gain vs. New Orleans Saints - YouTube Respectfully disagree ... the video clearly shows it was Maye. He could've and should've stuck Young on a righteous tackle. leilung and K Major like this.

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09-20-2023, 08:12 AM	#47
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Respectfully disagree ... the video clearly shows it was Maye. He could've and should've stuck Young on a righteous tackle. Oh, yes, it was definitely Maye. You put any defender out there in exactly the same position in the open field with Young at full speed and the defender will miss the majority of the time. If the ball carrier was Kamara they'd lose every time. That has to be the most difficult tackle to make in the game. I'd like rezburna's input on that one. I'm sure he's been in that position more than once in his career. If he had made the tackle it would have been a great one.

09-20-2023, 08:24 AM	#48
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,876	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 I think he was expecting a QB slide. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

09-20-2023, 08:27 AM	#49
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think he was expecting a QB slide. Good point. Very possible. Being a QB you would absolutely have to factor that into how you approach a hit. That's not a concern with other positions running the ball.

09-20-2023, 08:48 AM	#50
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,069 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Your Breakout Player For 2023 Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think he was expecting a QB slide. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Good point. Very possible. Being a QB you would absolutely have to factor that into how you approach a hit. That's not a concern with other positions running the ball. Shouldn't they expect the unexpected as professionals? Would TJ Watt or Nick Bosa be so timid in a similar situation? Twitter iceshack149 likes this.
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