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What u think we could get for him then pick up cook right now? Lose the high paid back who is gonna b out and get a close rb for way cheaper.

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Given the looming suspension, I'm sure it's a thought someone in Saints management has had. But, that same looming suspension kills his trade value.

Keep him on the roster... for now.

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I don't see any real trade value for him. He hasn't been particularly great the past couple seasons and we all know about the likely suspension. To me, what is going to be interesting is to see how a suspension impacts the Saints salary cap, meaning do the Saints get to recoup any of it and/or do the Saints have the option to void the contract if a prison sentence occurs?

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I don’t think he is tradeable. His dead money cap hits for 2023-25 are 24+ mill, 16 +mill and 8+ mill. This year alone his cap hit goes from 8 million to 24 million if he’s traded. I don’t think the team has that kind of cap space left.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...-kamara-21809/

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I have a feeling the team isn't interested in trading him right now. I also believe they have a pretty good idea of the probable outcome of his case given that they restructured his contract making it tougher to move him as Boston pointed out. There are two charges against the four defendants. One, a felony stating serious physical damage to the orbital bone, and the other, a misdemeanor, conspiracy to commit battery. The felony charge is extremely unlikely to stick for him according to several commentaries I have read due to it being his "friends" that did the damage to the head. I've also read that it is highly unlikely that the misdemeanor, if proven, would result in any jail time due to his clean record.

I know some here have mentioned Kamara's supposed regression over the past couple of years, but how much does that have to do with the overall lack of offensive production over that same period. The offensive line has been decimated each of the past two years. QB play has also been, let's say, subpar. It is expected that his production would have been down.

Truly, the only reasons to legitimately consider trading Kamara are the very reasons that makes him a poor candidate for trade ... as someone else here pointed out, as well.

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A suspension will only reduce the cap hit for the salary of the games missed due to a suspension. Kamara's base salary is only $1.08 million. Cap savings for a six game suspension (most likely length if found guilty) is $381,176.47 ($1.08 million/17*6).

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Now that Cook is a free agent I would expect him to get something far north of way cheaper than Kamara's current numbers.

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Cut Bait.... chum the waters..... Get rid of the thug, clean up the image of the Saints football team

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I'm sure the front offfice has been on the phone with interested teams already. In all honesty, I don't wee any reason why not see what we can get for him.
We currently have depth at RB and as the saying goes, "You fix your roof when it's sunny, not when it's raining."

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Honestly, if no team showed interest in trading for Dalvin Cook why would one suddenly show interest in trading for Alvin Kamara? Serious question here.

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That ship has sailed... The time to do it was before his incident in what is supposed to stay in Vegas, to get value. That being said, he's been used as a bell cow and it's turned out to be not his strong suit. Despite his declining skill set, and it's really been happening since his injury, his role out in the flat will be more productive than what he's shown us of late. He'll be around probably a couple of more years after which we'll be moving on. The points on the salary cap implications are valid should he be thrown under the jail, although we'll just see what else may unfold under the conduct clauses now in all contracts.

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They are the Falcons?

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The Falcons just drafted Bijan Robinson. I would think they would be among the least likely to be interested in a Kamara at this point.

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I really don’t want him gone. He’s a good player when used correctly and he’s a great receiving option

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Exactly. He is arguably the best in the game when used correctly in the screen game which requires precise teamwork by the offensive line and a delicate and accurate touch by the QB's. We had none of those over the past two seasons due to injuries and such.

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If we cut or traded Kamara we would eat $24 million in prorated bonus. People need to understand the costs of Mickeynomics. If a player like Kamara, Peat, or Thomas assaults Gayle Benson, curses the pope to her face, and gets arrested in a strip club for murder wearing a Falcons jersey, we cant cut or trade them, we can only offer them a restrcture that includes an extension, because the second they leave the roster the bill comes due for all the money Mickey borrowed from the future through restructurings. Kamara’s value is the same as Cook’s, but Minnesota dated Cook, we married Kamara and threw out the prenup. Till Mickey Loomis’s death do we part.

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Unless we have every NFL Gm's office bugged, we really can't say who has called about FA's or trades can we? Just because it ain't on twitter doesn't mean that conversations aren't being floated. It's merely 'what if' speculation aty any rate.

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Yup! Agree completely. Nothing more than "what if" speculation. "Why though" is another area of speculation to consider.

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Kamara came in looking highly motivated. He was all business at practice this week. He was not his usual jovial self.

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I believe it was Triplett that said Kamara came in knowing his production last season was not up to his standards (not all his fault) and he appeared to being extra focused and motivated.

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When Payton left he must have taken all the creativity from the play book with him. It's obvious that AK is not a bell cow type RB. He can run between the tackles occasionally but he's not built for it. Give that man some space to work in!

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I don’t have the time or resources to do it efficiently, but I would like to see an evaluation of production from teams offenses based solely upon running backs over the last say, 20 years. A full stat breakdown of Who has gotten the most yards from scrimmage and total scoring from their running backs would be interesting. I’m guessing the Saints would be pretty hi on the list.

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No reason to let him go. Won't save us any money. Won't make us any better.

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He must have also taken the health of the offensive line away, as well. The two factors that made Kamara so good in space was 1) Drew Brees delivering him the ball, and 2) the offensive line working together as a unit to set up the screens.

Over the past two seasons we have had a QB out there with the ability to place the ball with the touch and accuracy that Brees employed and we've had a patchwork offensive line that literally haven't played two games in a row with each other in two years. I'm excited to see what he can do with a healthy line and Carr under center.

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Trading Kamara isn't my concern THIS SEASON. The topic here should be how many weeks or months AK misses in 2023 due to being a knucklehead.

The NFL takes the personal conduct policy seriously.

I just hope he doesn't sit 8 games but that suspension is coming.

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Knucklehead is kind IMO. I’m guessing I’m in the minority, but I feel very bad about the incident he was in. It’s not far from Roethlisberger’s sexual assault cover-up, or Petersons abuse of his child. I realize I don’t have all the facts, but it still stinks. I don’t expect me to agree with me.

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That guy obviously had Kamara and his posse worked up pretty badly. I read somewhere that he had pestered them all night before forcing his way into the elevator and touching Kamara's female friend. We'll get more details when the trail comes around next month.

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I get it Rugby and I know we do not have all the info. But IMO if you are a multi-millionaire, face of the franchise type player you shouldn’t be chasing some schmuck down the hall and stomping him with your friends because he hassled you. Rise above it.

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If I'm not mistaken I believe Kamara backed off before his friends started with the stomping. Regardless, he has the benefit of a spotless record prior to this incident and having millions of dollars has never stopped someone from making a bad decision. I'd be willing to bet he never makes the same mistake again. And I'm expecting him to make a huge contribution to our championship run this season.

:bng:

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Fair enough. I will never look at him the same.

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That is, of course, your choice. I have come to embrace what a very special man once said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her", or him in this case.

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Leaked videos aren't the tell all. We'll get to know more as we get closer to the court date, if it even gets that far.

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Let's get the full story after the trial when all the facts are out in public. Nonetheless, I believe that Kamara was justified in punching the dude a couple of times. I probably would have hit him a couple of more times to ensure that he got my message but I would stop short of curb stomping him. It's hard to believe that someone could piss of mild mannered AK that much.

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Mostly it doesn’t matter if he is mother theresa or the son of sam. He is an aging running back with declining stats and injuries behind an aging and injured oline. Every once in a blue moon you get an adrian peterson or emmitt smith but for every one of them there are a dozen runners with short careers. In general, your not looking for maturity in a running back, your looking for youth, and if you think a running back has a couple good years left, what you want is an exit strategy if you overestimated by a couple years.

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It matters to me. Hence my post about not looking at him the same way. I like pulling for individuals of hi moral fiber. Maybe that’s lost in today’s society

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Then you are pulling for one individual in history, my friend. We all have done things that we regret. I'd be willing to bet that some here have done worse than young Alvin in their lives. What's lost in society is recognizing the fact that we as humans do wrong and need to be striving to overcome those transgressions.

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Oh, I've done worse but it was not caught on tape. Thank god! I was a bad boy. :biggun:

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They didn't even have tape way back then. Just black & white silent film with piano accompaniment.

https://nofilmschool.com/sites/defau...?itok=4TshIkNr

:couch:

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If we were to cut Kamara it would cost us more money than we save to part ways with him now. Then we would need to find another RB which would cost us even more money. I believe we need to hold on to him this season and then look at his contract next year when it's cheaper to trade or cut him. Personally, I hope he finishes out his contract with New Orleans while playing well.

AK could surprise some folks and have a good season when he returns from his suspension. If Carmichael feels good about the offense then he might be more aggressive and get the ball to AK in space with some clever play calling. Fingers crossed!