New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more

WhoDat!656 · 06-14-2023, 09:42 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...f7cc17a20&ei=9

iceshack149 · 06-14-2023, 10:37 AM

Whew. Not a great way to start my day. I would argue that the Johnathan Sullivan pick was worse than the Ricky Williams pick, though.

After reading that article, cleanse your palate with this:
https://youtube.com/shorts/BjUvCrcEynw?feature=share

Boston Saint · 06-14-2023, 11:13 AM

Indeed. Not only is it too easy if a shot, but Ricky finished his career the 5th all time leading rusher for the team up to that point. At least he produced some. IDK why but the Baptiste pick always stuck in my craw. A second round pick on a guy with 1 career NFL tackle.

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2023, 11:56 AM

Throughout the entire history of the draft there have always been a fair share of total busts and there will always be the occasional bust, regardless of what round or what franchise is involved. It is the nature of the beast. I suppose that's why I have never understood the obsession with the related draft capital of any player that is drafted. The NFL draft has always been and will always be an inexact science. I'm not saying there is no skill involved, but even the very best strike out from time to time.

MatthewT · 06-14-2023, 01:32 PM

Ricky Williams worst draft pick? I mean seriously, nothing can be worse than using a 1st round, 11th overall pick on Russell Erxleben...

SmashMouth · 06-14-2023, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Ricky Williams worst draft pick? I mean seriously, nothing can be worse than using a 1st round, 11th overall pick on Russell Erxleben...

Ricky did produce and so did Erxleben. While I agree spending a number 1 for a kicker is not advisable, the Raiders did OK with their #1 draft pick special teamer.

Sully has to be the worst since he cost us two number 1s.

I am glad we have Jeff Ireland now. Hope he never leaves us.

MatthewT · 06-14-2023, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Ricky did produce and so did Erxleben. While I agree spending a number 1 for a kicker is not advisable, the Raiders did OK with their #1 draft pick special teamer.

Sully has to be the worst since he cost us two number 1s.

I am glad we have Jeff Ireland now. Hope he never leaves us.

OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter?

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2023, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter?

He had a cool name. Not as cool as Guido Merkens, of course, but still cool.

SmashMouth · 06-14-2023, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter?

Agreed not worthy of a Number 1 pick ... but he was not a Jonathan Sullivan. He'd be an UDFA today.

dizzle88 · 06-14-2023, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Indeed. Not only is it too easy if a shot, but Ricky finished his career the 5th all time leading rusher for the team up to that point. At least he produced some. IDK why but the Baptiste pick always stuck in my craw. A second round pick on a guy with 1 career NFL tackle.

One of many Payton head scratchers.

He was so enamoured by the Seahawks Defense that shut us down and went onto win the SB, that he genuinely thought SJB was the next Richard Sherman.

06-14-2023, 10:37 AM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Whew. Not a great way to start my day. I would argue that the Johnathan Sullivan pick was worse than the Ricky Williams pick, though. After reading that article, cleanse your palate with this: https://youtube.com/shorts/BjUvCrcEynw?feature=share jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

06-14-2023, 11:13 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Indeed. Not only is it too easy if a shot, but Ricky finished his career the 5th all time leading rusher for the team up to that point. At least he produced some. IDK why but the Baptiste pick always stuck in my craw. A second round pick on a guy with 1 career NFL tackle.

06-14-2023, 11:56 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Throughout the entire history of the draft there have always been a fair share of total busts and there will always be the occasional bust, regardless of what round or what franchise is involved. It is the nature of the beast. I suppose that's why I have never understood the obsession with the related draft capital of any player that is drafted. The NFL draft has always been and will always be an inexact science. I'm not saying there is no skill involved, but even the very best strike out from time to time.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Ricky Williams worst draft pick? I mean seriously, nothing can be worse than using a 1st round, 11th overall pick on Russell Erxleben...

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Originally Posted by MatthewT Ricky Williams worst draft pick? I mean seriously, nothing can be worse than using a 1st round, 11th overall pick on Russell Erxleben... Ricky did produce and so did Erxleben. While I agree spending a number 1 for a kicker is not advisable, the Raiders did OK with their #1 draft pick special teamer. Sully has to be the worst since he cost us two number 1s. I am glad we have Jeff Ireland now. Hope he never leaves us. iceshack149 likes this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Originally Posted by SmashMouth Ricky did produce and so did Erxleben. While I agree spending a number 1 for a kicker is not advisable, the Raiders did OK with their #1 draft pick special teamer. Sully has to be the worst since he cost us two number 1s. I am glad we have Jeff Ireland now. Hope he never leaves us. OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Originally Posted by MatthewT OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter? He had a cool name. Not as cool as Guido Merkens, of course, but still cool.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Originally Posted by MatthewT OK, I have to ask, what did Erxleben do? He was a failed kicker and a very below average punter? Agreed not worthy of a Number 1 pick ... but he was not a Jonathan Sullivan. He'd be an UDFA today.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: New Orleans Saints Hall of Shame: Worst breakup and more Originally Posted by Boston Saint Indeed. Not only is it too easy if a shot, but Ricky finished his career the 5th all time leading rusher for the team up to that point. At least he produced some. IDK why but the Baptiste pick always stuck in my craw. A second round pick on a guy with 1 career NFL tackle. One of many Payton head scratchers. He was so enamoured by the Seahawks Defense that shut us down and went onto win the SB, that he genuinely thought SJB was the next Richard Sherman. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.