Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints

Rugby Saint II · 07-18-2023, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Certainly could happen. They also could hit sophomore slumps and struggle with a new QB. Without Thomas, saying it’s Edwards and a bunch of young guys is still an accurate statement.

I feel better about them than you do. If Edwards replaces Thomas due to injury it is still an upgrade to what we've had the last few years. Most people expect Thomas to miss substantial playing time, and if he can play ten games then I consider that to be lagniappe.

Apparently, I'm of the few people who expect Edwards to breakout this season with his old QB DC4. Olave was already our number one receiver most of last season and looked great at OTA's this year.

Shaheed just needed to get healed, learn the play book, and be coached up a little. He was then elevated from the practice squad and was an immediate impact player while scoring touchdowns. He looks even more polished and, like Olave, he put on five pounds of muscle this offseason. And if we can finally move on from 3Q's fantastic blocking but poor production then we've upgraded.

AT Perry and Shaq Davis both have a good shot at the roster because they are very good athletes. It will probably come down to who plays special teams. Those last few spots need to make their way on the roster via special teams.

Boston Saint · 07-18-2023, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I feel better about them than you do. If Edwards replaces Thomas due to injury it is still an upgrade to what we've had the last few years. Most people expect Thomas to miss substantial playing time, and if he can play ten games then I consider that to be lagniappe.

Apparently, I'm of the few people who expect Edwards to breakout this season with his old QB DC4. Olave was already our number one receiver most of last season and looked great at OTA's this year.

Shaheed just needed to get healed, learn the play book, and be coached up a kittle.. He was then elevated from the practice squad and was an immediate impact player while scoring touchdowns. He looks even more polished and, like Olave, he put on five pounds of muscle this offseason. And if we can finally move on from 3Q's fantastic blocking but poor production then we've upgraded.

AT Perry and Shaq Davis both have a good shot at the roster because they are very good athletes. It will probably come down to who plays special teams. Those last few spots need to make their way on the roster via special teams.

I think my comment was taken as a bigger negative than I meant it to be. Olave has all the makings of a viable #1 guy. Shaheed was a great surprise pick up who had glimpses of greatness. I don’t doubt them.

I was responding to the comment “Our WR room is not as strong as some like to think.”

I think there is validity there. If Thomas is a no-show I probably would rank our WR group as middle of the pack for the league. If Thomas doesn’t play do YOU see us as having a top 10 WR group?

Rugby Saint II · 07-19-2023, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think my comment was taken as a bigger negative than I meant it to be. Olave has all the makings of a viable #1 guy. Shaheed was a great surprise pick up who had glimpses of greatness. I don’t doubt them.

I was responding to the comment “Our WR room is not as strong as some like to think.”

I think there is validity there. If Thomas is a no-show I probably would rank our WR group as middle of the pack for the league. If Thomas doesn’t play do YOU see us as having a top 10 WR group?

I agree that if Thomas misses substantial playing time we are in the middle tier of WR's. But, we would probably still be at the top of the middle tier with our promising young athletes. It feels like having a healthy Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed, makes us a top five WR group though. Throw JJ and Moreau in there and it looks even better.

We've also got several promising role players waiting to step up if given an opportunity. I don't expect Edwards to get much playing time if Thomas stays healthy. Although, I do see him as the primary MT backup if he misses time. I about the young talent we brought in this year at WR. Don't forget that we found Shaheed last year and he had an immediate impact when he hit the field. So yeah, I'm pretty excited to see what DC4 can do with these young receivers!

07-18-2023, 06:25 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Certainly could happen. They also could hit sophomore slumps and struggle with a new QB. Without Thomas, saying it’s Edwards and a bunch of young guys is still an accurate statement. I feel better about them than you do. If Edwards replaces Thomas due to injury it is still an upgrade to what we've had the last few years. Most people expect Thomas to miss substantial playing time, and if he can play ten games then I consider that to be lagniappe. Apparently, I'm of the few people who expect Edwards to breakout this season with his old QB DC4. Olave was already our number one receiver most of last season and looked great at OTA's this year. Shaheed just needed to get healed, learn the play book, and be coached up a little. He was then elevated from the practice squad and was an immediate impact player while scoring touchdowns. He looks even more polished and, like Olave, he put on five pounds of muscle this offseason. And if we can finally move on from 3Q's fantastic blocking but poor production then we've upgraded. AT Perry and Shaq Davis both have a good shot at the roster because they are very good athletes. It will probably come down to who plays special teams. Those last few spots need to make their way on the roster via special teams. WW_Who_Dat likes this.
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07-18-2023, 06:54 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I feel better about them than you do. If Edwards replaces Thomas due to injury it is still an upgrade to what we've had the last few years. Most people expect Thomas to miss substantial playing time, and if he can play ten games then I consider that to be lagniappe. Apparently, I'm of the few people who expect Edwards to breakout this season with his old QB DC4. Olave was already our number one receiver most of last season and looked great at OTA's this year. Shaheed just needed to get healed, learn the play book, and be coached up a kittle.. He was then elevated from the practice squad and was an immediate impact player while scoring touchdowns. He looks even more polished and, like Olave, he put on five pounds of muscle this offseason. And if we can finally move on from 3Q's fantastic blocking but poor production then we've upgraded. AT Perry and Shaq Davis both have a good shot at the roster because they are very good athletes. It will probably come down to who plays special teams. Those last few spots need to make their way on the roster via special teams. I think my comment was taken as a bigger negative than I meant it to be. Olave has all the makings of a viable #1 guy. Shaheed was a great surprise pick up who had glimpses of greatness. I don’t doubt them. I was responding to the comment “Our WR room is not as strong as some like to think.” I think there is validity there. If Thomas is a no-show I probably would rank our WR group as middle of the pack for the league. If Thomas doesn’t play do YOU see us as having a top 10 WR group? Rugby Saint II likes this.
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07-19-2023, 05:19 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think my comment was taken as a bigger negative than I meant it to be. Olave has all the makings of a viable #1 guy. Shaheed was a great surprise pick up who had glimpses of greatness. I don’t doubt them. I was responding to the comment “Our WR room is not as strong as some like to think.” I think there is validity there. If Thomas is a no-show I probably would rank our WR group as middle of the pack for the league. If Thomas doesn’t play do YOU see us as having a top 10 WR group? I agree that if Thomas misses substantial playing time we are in the middle tier of WR's. But, we would probably still be at the top of the middle tier with our promising young athletes. It feels like having a healthy Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed, makes us a top five WR group though. Throw JJ and Moreau in there and it looks even better. We've also got several promising role players waiting to step up if given an opportunity. I don't expect Edwards to get much playing time if Thomas stays healthy. Although, I do see him as the primary MT backup if he misses time. I about the young talent we brought in this year at WR. Don't forget that we found Shaheed last year and he had an immediate impact when he hit the field. So yeah, I'm pretty excited to see what DC4 can do with these young receivers!
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