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Old 08-21-2023, 10:24 PM   #1
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Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers

Aaron Rodgers throws the ball out of bounds with the best of them.
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Old 08-22-2023, 07:09 AM   #2
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Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers

In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward:

On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended;

On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!

Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy.

A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"
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In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward:

On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended;

On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!

Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy.
Amen to the swarm tackling ... I clearly remember Roby acting as an observer on a tackle or two rather than help bring down a runner/receiver.
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Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers

“Saints fans want Winston to start week 1 over Carr”

Show me ONE Saints fan that wants that.
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“Saints fans want Winston to start week 1 over Carr”

Show me ONE Saints fan that wants that.
Just go out to Twitter (or X now). They are definitely out there. These are just a few. There are tons more.




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On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!
And that's kinda what new DC Joe Woods was known for up in Cleveland.

Guess it's still early though.
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We need to move Winston now before the rest of the league finds out that he holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. Haener is already playing better than Winston has.
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We need to move Winston now before the rest of the league finds out that he holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. Haener is already playing better than Winston has.
Haener still hasn’t worked against other teams #1 Ds yet. I still think a cautious Winston is a better backup. He really hasn’t done anything to shoot the team in the foot like a TO and he has made a nice throw or three.
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Old 08-22-2023, 01:49 PM   #10
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I think Winston is what he is. He has a great deep ball that gives his receivers a lot of chances at big plays. He is going to look better with the 1's at WR who can make those contested catches and worse with the 2's who can't, so thats why he looked better in week 1 of preseason. He can be decently effective with the Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, and Chris Olave types. It took Sean Payton's genius to make him look good with crappy receivers in 2021. Our current staff lacks that genius and needs a QB who is more adaptable and less prone to throwing jump balls. But we would win some games with Winston throwing jump balls to our 1's, just not enough games.

I wish we would trade Winston but it would basically amount to a cut. It would cause a big dead cap hit. The way we restructure contracts his base salary is only $1 million so thats all we would save, and all the prorated money would hit hard. It would be the right thing to do, especially if we could get a pick out of it, and good for Winston and Haener too, but its not how we operate under this front office. It is much more likely that we will extend Winston to 2024 to further delay his cap hit than that we will move on this year, even if he is our #3 option.
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