Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers

FinSaint · 08-22-2023, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Nick Kroll does not have what it takes to play TE in the NFL.

leilung · 08-22-2023, 07:09 AM

In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward:

On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended;

On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!

Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy.

SmashMouth · 08-22-2023, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward:

On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended;

On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!

Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy.

Amen to the swarm tackling ... I clearly remember Roby acting as an observer on a tackle or two rather than help bring down a runner/receiver.

AsylumGuido · 08-22-2023, 08:25 AM

K Major · 08-22-2023, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!!

And that's kinda what new DC Joe Woods was known for up in Cleveland.

Guess it's still early though.

Boston Saint · 08-22-2023, 10:18 AM

“Saints fans want Winston to start week 1 over Carr”

Show me ONE Saints fan that wants that.

Rugby Saint II · 08-22-2023, 10:48 AM

We need to move Winston now before the rest of the league finds out that he holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. Haener is already playing better than Winston has.

Boston Saint · 08-22-2023, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We need to move Winston now before the rest of the league finds out that he holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. Haener is already playing better than Winston has.

Haener still hasn’t worked against other teams #1 Ds yet. I still think a cautious Winston is a better backup. He really hasn’t done anything to shoot the team in the foot like a TO and he has made a nice throw or three.

AsylumGuido · 08-22-2023, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

“Saints fans want Winston to start week 1 over Carr”

Show me ONE Saints fan that wants that.

Just go out to Twitter (or X now). They are definitely out there. These are just a few. There are tons more.

AsylumGuido · 08-22-2023, 12:08 PM

This post is dead on. Windham knows what he is talking about and does film study for a living. Penning had ONE play where he was made to look bad. That's all anyone remembers.

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08-22-2023, 02:47 AM	#41
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08-22-2023, 07:09 AM	#42
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,157	Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward: On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended; On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!! Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy.
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08-22-2023, 07:21 AM	#43
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,017 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers Originally Posted by leilung In general, I'm OK with the team's overall performance. If I'm nit-picking (and keeping in mind that the starters aren't reall present for most plays) here's what looks like it needs to be addressed going forward: On Offense: Consistent run blocking. (I'm looking at you Penning!); Dropping the ball after Reception; Receivers standing around acting like they don't know what to do when the play is extended; On Defense: No swarm tackling (I'm looking at you DA!); Red Zone D overall; DB assignment confusion; Run Defense!!! Maybe this is just what the 2nd and third stringers are showing us, but it makes me more than a little antsy. Amen to the swarm tackling ... I clearly remember Roby acting as an observer on a tackle or two rather than help bring down a runner/receiver. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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08-22-2023, 10:18 AM	#46
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08-22-2023, 10:58 AM	#48
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We need to move Winston now before the rest of the league finds out that he holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. Haener is already playing better than Winston has. Haener still hasn’t worked against other teams #1 Ds yet. I still think a cautious Winston is a better backup. He really hasn’t done anything to shoot the team in the foot like a TO and he has made a nice throw or three.

08-22-2023, 11:26 AM	#49
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08-22-2023, 12:08 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Observations from Saints' victory vs Chargers This post is dead on. Windham knows what he is talking about and does film study for a living. Penning had ONE play where he was made to look bad. That's all anyone remembers. Twitter Rugby Saint II likes this.