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iceshack149 09-19-2023 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 980351)
I guess Ross Tucker was right.

SmashMouth 09-20-2023 07:53 AM
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AsylumGuido 09-20-2023 01:04 PM
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AsylumGuido 09-21-2023 12:23 PM
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AsylumGuido 09-21-2023 04:37 PM
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Very interesting stats!

AsylumGuido 09-22-2023 11:26 AM
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AsylumGuido 09-23-2023 01:34 PM
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AsylumGuido 09-26-2023 01:10 PM
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There is this positive. Of course, our leader in dropped passes the last few years is returning this week, Kamara.

iceshack149 09-26-2023 01:26 PM
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So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

AsylumGuido 09-26-2023 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 981320)
So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?
Here's EVERY target to Olave the whole Packers game. There wasn't any drops.

K Major 09-26-2023 04:16 PM
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Saints release Tre'Quan Smith from IR.

He's now a Free Agent & can go sign with Denver if he chooses to do so.

Source - Field Yates

K Major 09-26-2023 04:17 PM
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The Saints are also signing Jake Luton from the Panthers practice squad.

Source - Field Yates

K Major 09-26-2023 05:11 PM
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The Falcons are signing OT Storm Norton off the Saints practice squad. FYI, this isn't much of a loss TBH.

Source - Mike Garafalo

AsylumGuido 09-26-2023 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981331)
The Falcons are signing OT Storm Norton off the Saints practice squad. FYI, this isn't much of a loss TBH.

Source - Mike Garafalo
This just goes to show the dearth of offensive line talent available out there right now across the entire league.

AsylumGuido 09-26-2023 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 981320)
So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 981321)
Here's EVERY target to Olave the whole Packers game. There wasn't any drops.

Chris Olave Every Target and Catch @ Green Bay Packers | 2023 Week 3 | Fantasy Football Film - YouTube
Still waiting to see that drop, ice. :confused: Every target is in the video so it should be easy. The time marker would work.

Thanks in advance! :D

AsylumGuido 09-27-2023 08:26 AM
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Wow! This shows how teams have been attempting to attack us through the air with limited success.

WhoDat!656 09-27-2023 08:32 AM
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According to ESPN’s Field Yates, the Saints have signed veteran quarterback Jake Luton off of the Carolina Panthers’ practice squad.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...&ei=18#image=1

rezburna 09-27-2023 08:36 AM
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Wow! This shows how teams have been attempting to attack us through the air with limited success.

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...02144505684080
Yep.

WhoDat!656 09-27-2023 08:37 AM
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"The Saints have released WR Tre’Quan Smith from IR. He’s now a free agent.," ESPN's Field Yates.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...bfddfa3b&ei=49

AsylumGuido 09-27-2023 08:50 AM
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Now this would be nice. :D

cmike 09-27-2023 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 981320)
So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?
Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in.

K Major 09-27-2023 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 981356)
Yep.
Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though.

Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ...

Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game.

Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late.

Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked :chef: our CBs.

iceshack149 09-27-2023 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981363)
Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though.

Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ...

Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game.

Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late.

Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked :chef: our CBs.
Yes. And I may be petty-homer guy but those last second PI calls were gifts for the Packers.

AsylumGuido 09-27-2023 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 981320)
So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 981362)
Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in.
I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway.

But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway.

AsylumGuido 09-27-2023 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 981365)
Yes. And I may be petty-homer guy but those last second PI calls were gifts for the Packers.
Yes they were. Love was one for seven passing on that drive. 67 of the 80 yards came off those two penalties.

K Major 09-27-2023 12:00 PM
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You’re right Ice but no way should the Saints
have blown a 17 point lead late like that.

Notice how Philly, KC, Bills, MIA (usual suspects) put teams out
of their misery by attacking, leaving no doubt & out of the Zebras hands.

I’m on to Tampa 🫡.

cmike 09-27-2023 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 981374)
I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway.

But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway.
On the game day thread, no one questioned whether it was a drop or not. Most were curious why Carr didn’t throw it to MT13 instead. Vilma immediately commented and said Carr shouldn’t have thrown it there and got lucky that the pass wasn’t picked.

Rugby Saint II 09-27-2023 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981376)
You’re right Ice but no way should the Saints
have blown a 17 point lead late like that.

Notice how Philly, KC, Bills, MIA (usual suspects) put teams out
of their misery by attacking, leaving no doubt & out of the Zebras hands.

I’m on to Tampa 🫡.
We don't attack late in the game. Instead, we go into prevent defense way too early and allow them to get back in the game. We play not to lose and then we lose when we take our foot off the other teams throat and get a big fat "L".

iceshack149 09-27-2023 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981376)
You’re right Ice but no way should the Saints
have blown a 17 point lead late like that.

Notice how Philly, KC, Bills, MIA (usual suspects) put teams out
of their misery by attacking, leaving no doubt & out of the Zebras hands.

I’m on to Tampa 🫡.
I agree and said that in the game day thread.

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 980994)
The Saints pissed their pants but those PI calls were absolute garbage.

K Major 09-28-2023 12:24 PM
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Solid breakdown on Ramz vs GB & Oline woes by Deuce W. Roughly 16 min listen.
He even touches on the Yankee Concept (routes & Carr holding onto the ball too long) starting around 16:35.

Hopefully Doug Marrone is adjusting, giving guys help across the entire oline. Tampa won't do us any favors, especially coming off a dominating loss on national TV.

1st place in the NFC SOUTH DIVISON IS ON THE LINE here.

Rugby Saint II 09-28-2023 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981471)
Solid breakdown on Ramz vs GB & Oline woes by Deuce W. Roughly 16 min listen.
He even touches on the Yankee Concept (routes & Carr holding onto the ball too long) starting around 16:35.

Hopefully Doug Marrone is adjusting, giving guys help across the entire oline. Tampa won't do us any favors, especially coming off a dominating loss on national TV.

1st place in the NFC SOUTH DIVISON IS ON THE LINE here.

Saints Film Room: RAM no longer the GOAT? | How offensive line fared vs Packers in Week 3, 2023 - YouTube
How can the NFC South Division be on the line? I thought we were supposed to sweep everyone in our division. We lost to Carolina, again. Nonetheless, we could still easily win the division, but it will be more of a dog fight than a cake walk if Dougie can get these big boys blocking. If not, it's going to be a long season chewing on antacids!

K Major 09-28-2023 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 981481)
How can the NFC South Division be on the line? I thought we were supposed to sweep everyone in our division. We lost to Carolina, again. Nonetheless, we could still easily win the division, but it will be more of a dog fight than a cake walk if Dougie can get these big boys blocking. If not, it's going to be a long season chewing on antacids!
Ha! You don't want to get behind in the division early on.

"Easy" at this level ... nonexistent in my mind.

And we defeated Carolina 2 weeks ago ;)

AsylumGuido 09-28-2023 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 981481)
How can the NFC South Division be on the line? I thought we were supposed to sweep everyone in our division. We lost to Carolina, again. Nonetheless, we could still easily win the division, but it will be more of a dog fight than a cake walk if Dougie can get these big boys blocking. If not, it's going to be a long season chewing on antacids!
Um, we didn't lose to Carolina, Rugs. We beat them week two.

AsylumGuido 09-28-2023 07:02 PM
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K Major 09-29-2023 10:14 AM
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So Pete C gets yet another playmaker (AK) back on Sunday.

Question is : How will he utilize him against the Bucs?

Gruden was in Metarie earlier this summer ... use some of the concepts he implemented/suggested. Screens, playaction on 1st down (see Detroit game last night), get the football out early. No need to stand back there with this terrible oline and get your QB destroyed & take more sacks.

It's a copy cat league. Do what the Lions did last night. Philly vs Bucs or MIA (Tua has taken only 1 sack so far) vs Denver.

Change it up, get more creative on offense. With the WR/TE & RB room, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be scoring UNDER 24 ppg.

Help out your defense. They are good enough but you can't expect them to be on the field all game (7 punts vs Pack) long.

Coaching matters. Even at this level.

rezburna 09-29-2023 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 981520)
So Pete C gets yet another playmaker (AK) back on Sunday.

Question is : How will he utilize him against the Bucs?

Gruden was in Metarie earlier this summer ... use some of the concepts he implemented/suggested. Screens, playaction on 1st down (see Detroit game last night), get the football out early. No need to stand back there with this terrible oline and get your QB destroyed & take more sacks.

It's a copy cat league. Do what the Lions did last night. Philly vs Bucs or MIA (Tua has taken only 1 sack so far) vs Denver.

Change it up, get more creative on offense. With the WR/TE & RB room, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be scoring UNDER 24 ppg.

Help out your defense. They are good enough but you can't expect them to be on the field all game (7 punts vs Pack) long.

Coaching matters. Even at this level.
We have athletes that can create with YAC. I don’t understand the philosophy of this offense.

Boston Saint 09-29-2023 11:07 AM
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We have athletes that can create with YAC. I don’t understand the philosophy of this offense.
So far the philosophy has been “Don’t block ANYBODY”.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2023 11:33 AM
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rezburna 09-29-2023 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 981523)
So far the philosophy has been “Don’t block ANYBODY”.
It really shouldn’t even matter. Burrow went to a Super Bowl with a ****ty line. We have the talent to overcome it. Nobody has a perfect team so it’s really no excuses. Coaching is just ass.

K Major 09-29-2023 11:45 AM
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+1.

I'll share a glarying stat (at least it stands out for me) here:

"The Saints have scored 21 or few points in nine consecutive games, dating to last season. That matches the Bears for the longest streak in the NFL and is the longest run of offensive importency since 2005 for the Saints" :bugeyes:.

Better fix this Dennis, Pete and Dougie Marrone.

It's not going to get any easier at this level & no one wants to hear the excuses. This team is loaded offensively.


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