Kicker

MatthewT · 09-11-2023, 01:01 AM

Lutz may get a week to fix this, maybe or maybe not. Came back after that injury and was the worst kicker in the NFL. Writing is on the wall that this young man's career is likely over if Denver has to cut him.

hitta · 09-11-2023, 06:14 AM

I don't feel like making fun of Lutz. I like Lutz a lot and he was a true Saint. He just hasn't been the same since the injury. I feel bad for him honestly. I'm happy we found a replacement though, Grupe can really kick.

SmashMouth · 09-11-2023, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I don't feel like making fun of Lutz. I like Lutz a lot and he was a true Saint. He just hasn't been the same since the injury. I feel bad for him honestly. I'm happy we found a replacement though, Grupe can really kick.

I don't think anyone is making fun of Lutz. I think we're all glad and happy for Grupe.

hitta · 09-11-2023, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I don't think anyone is making fun of Lutz. I think we're all glad and happy for Grupe.

Not here, but I've seen it on SaintsReport and our reddit. I don't get the point of poking fun at him, the dude literally gave his all for us.

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2023, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

Not here, but I've seen it on SaintsReport and our reddit. I don't get the point of poking fun at him, the dude literally gave his all for us.

I believe this is a good article that explains much of it. There's, of course, more detail on each talking point, but it's a good, accurate list.

12 Psychological Reasons Why People Make Fun Of Others

1. Insecurity (they put others down in order to make themselves look better).

2. They’re uncomfortable with those who are different.

3. Learned behaviors from others.

4. Projection about their own perceived flaws or shortcomings.

5. The need to be the center of attention.

6. “Better than average effect” (BTAE).

7. Ethical erosion.

8. Contempt toward perceived weakness.

9. Fear.

10. They feel powerless, so they try to take power from others.

11. Low emotional intelligence.

12. Control.

SmashMouth · 09-11-2023, 01:23 PM

Rugby Saint II · 09-11-2023, 02:16 PM

Grupe was dropping them deep in goal on his kickoffs too.

BakoSaint · 09-11-2023, 05:53 PM

I think Lutz is an average kicker who had a bad day Sunday. Kickers come and go in this league but it would not surprise me if he stuck around awhile. I think having traded a pick for him, the Broncos will give him more than 2 games, unless they keep losing at his fault. I am just glad we have a younger cheaper kicker who has been solid.

I don't agree that making fun of people is all bad. Sometimes friends make fun of each other to get a thick skin. A little fun is good. Everyone being all super polite and sensitive makes pansies. The League was a good show, shows a good example of healthy friendships. Lutz didn't have to be a pro kicker, he chose it, and yeah you make a kick you get free Gatorade on your head, you miss one you get called some names, he could have chosen to do peoples taxes at H&R Block if he didn't want that. I don't know how it could be more obvious that NFL kicker is not the ideal job for anyone who is highly emotionally sensitive to the casual criticism of strangers. Delicate souls need not apply.

I like Lutz. I don't think feeling sorry for him will make him make kicks. He blew a game. Now he needs to man up and go win the next game.

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2023, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I think Lutz is an average kicker who had a bad day Sunday. Kickers come and go in this league but it would not surprise me if he stuck around awhile. I think having traded a pick for him, the Broncos will give him more than 2 games, unless they keep losing at his fault. I am just glad we have a younger cheaper kicker who has been solid.

I don't agree that making fun of people is all bad. Sometimes friends make fun of each other to get a thick skin. A little fun is good. Everyone being all super polite and sensitive makes pansies. The League was a good show, shows a good example of healthy friendships. Lutz didn't have to be a pro kicker, he chose it, and yeah you make a kick you get free Gatorade on your head, you miss one you get called some names, he could have chosen to do peoples taxes at H&R Block if he didn't want that. I don't know how it could be more obvious that NFL kicker is not the ideal job for anyone who is highly emotionally sensitive to the casual criticism of strangers. Delicate souls need not apply.

I like Lutz. I don't think feeling sorry for him will make him make kicks. He blew a game. Now he needs to man up and go win the next game.

I agree 100% about ribbing amongst close friends. Apples and rocks.

Thirty3 · 09-11-2023, 06:53 PM

I just hope Grupe has enough sense to stay the heck out of the way if a runner gets past the first wave. Dude will be crushed. We will be out of a kicker.

09-11-2023, 01:01 AM	#11
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Kicker Lutz may get a week to fix this, maybe or maybe not. Came back after that injury and was the worst kicker in the NFL. Writing is on the wall that this young man's career is likely over if Denver has to cut him.

09-11-2023, 06:14 AM	#12
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Kicker I don't feel like making fun of Lutz. I like Lutz a lot and he was a true Saint. He just hasn't been the same since the injury. I feel bad for him honestly. I'm happy we found a replacement though, Grupe can really kick. Crusader, Rugby Saint II, WW_Who_Dat and 3 others like this.
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09-11-2023, 08:13 AM	#13
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kicker Originally Posted by hitta I don't feel like making fun of Lutz. I like Lutz a lot and he was a true Saint. He just hasn't been the same since the injury. I feel bad for him honestly. I'm happy we found a replacement though, Grupe can really kick. I don't think anyone is making fun of Lutz. I think we're all glad and happy for Grupe. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

09-11-2023, 10:43 AM	#14
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Kicker Originally Posted by SmashMouth I don't think anyone is making fun of Lutz. I think we're all glad and happy for Grupe. Not here, but I've seen it on SaintsReport and our reddit. I don't get the point of poking fun at him, the dude literally gave his all for us. Crusader, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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09-11-2023, 01:12 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Kicker Originally Posted by hitta Not here, but I've seen it on SaintsReport and our reddit. I don't get the point of poking fun at him, the dude literally gave his all for us. I believe this is a good article that explains much of it. There's, of course, more detail on each talking point, but it's a good, accurate list. 12 Psychological Reasons Why People Make Fun Of Others 1. Insecurity (they put others down in order to make themselves look better). 2. They’re uncomfortable with those who are different. 3. Learned behaviors from others. 4. Projection about their own perceived flaws or shortcomings. 5. The need to be the center of attention. 6. “Better than average effect” (BTAE). 7. Ethical erosion. 8. Contempt toward perceived weakness. 9. Fear. 10. They feel powerless, so they try to take power from others. 11. Low emotional intelligence. 12. Control. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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09-11-2023, 05:53 PM	#18
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Kicker I think Lutz is an average kicker who had a bad day Sunday. Kickers come and go in this league but it would not surprise me if he stuck around awhile. I think having traded a pick for him, the Broncos will give him more than 2 games, unless they keep losing at his fault. I am just glad we have a younger cheaper kicker who has been solid. I don't agree that making fun of people is all bad. Sometimes friends make fun of each other to get a thick skin. A little fun is good. Everyone being all super polite and sensitive makes pansies. The League was a good show, shows a good example of healthy friendships. Lutz didn't have to be a pro kicker, he chose it, and yeah you make a kick you get free Gatorade on your head, you miss one you get called some names, he could have chosen to do peoples taxes at H&R Block if he didn't want that. I don't know how it could be more obvious that NFL kicker is not the ideal job for anyone who is highly emotionally sensitive to the casual criticism of strangers. Delicate souls need not apply. I like Lutz. I don't think feeling sorry for him will make him make kicks. He blew a game. Now he needs to man up and go win the next game.
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09-11-2023, 06:19 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Kicker Originally Posted by BakoSaint I think Lutz is an average kicker who had a bad day Sunday. Kickers come and go in this league but it would not surprise me if he stuck around awhile. I think having traded a pick for him, the Broncos will give him more than 2 games, unless they keep losing at his fault. I am just glad we have a younger cheaper kicker who has been solid. I don't agree that making fun of people is all bad. Sometimes friends make fun of each other to get a thick skin. A little fun is good. Everyone being all super polite and sensitive makes pansies. The League was a good show, shows a good example of healthy friendships. Lutz didn't have to be a pro kicker, he chose it, and yeah you make a kick you get free Gatorade on your head, you miss one you get called some names, he could have chosen to do peoples taxes at H&R Block if he didn't want that. I don't know how it could be more obvious that NFL kicker is not the ideal job for anyone who is highly emotionally sensitive to the casual criticism of strangers. Delicate souls need not apply. I like Lutz. I don't think feeling sorry for him will make him make kicks. He blew a game. Now he needs to man up and go win the next game. I agree 100% about ribbing amongst close friends. Apples and rocks.

09-11-2023, 06:53 PM	#20
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Kicker I just hope Grupe has enough sense to stay the heck out of the way if a runner gets past the first wave. Dude will be crushed. We will be out of a kicker. AsylumGuido and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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