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K Major 09-15-2023 02:21 PM

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^^ Speaking of injuries, I see Marcus Davenport limped off the field last night. Good talent but geesh, he can't stay healthy. The Saints made the right move.

Hopefully Payton Turner (another former 1st Rd DE selection) can get over this injury bug. He's been injured a LOT.

AsylumGuido 09-15-2023 02:37 PM

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Looks like we could have Kendre Miller back Monday.


SmashMouth 09-15-2023 06:05 PM

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AsylumGuido 09-15-2023 06:44 PM

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rezburna 09-15-2023 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979842)

RPO with bubble screen action for Olave/Shaheed
RPO with slant action for Thomas
5 Wide Sets
Motion Olave and Shaheed EVERY play. It tips off coverage and can allow them to end up in a mismatch.
Use Olave and Shaheed out of the backfield A LOT more.
More Trips-Bunch sets.
Put trips to one side and have MT alone by himself to the wide side of the field. Let him body those corners.


That'll make the pass rush ineffective.

rezburna 09-15-2023 07:41 PM

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It seems like a lot of NFL teams are sitting back in Cover 2 and Cover 4. That's two deep safeties. I've been seeing a lot of 7 and 8 men in coverage. Passing lanes are tight. Spread that zone out.

Boston Saint 09-15-2023 07:42 PM

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Key to the game…don’t screw up with Turnovers. No Shaheed fumble on opening Kickoff. No stupid passes by Carr. We came so close to losing last week because of not securing the ball. Even the last drive to secure the win had a fumble recovered by the runner.

Blocked punt, Shaheed fumble, Incomplete pass called on Carr’s throw, 4 ints total in the game (I think). All these add up. Look at the Eagles/Vikings game. How many TOs were needed for Minnesota to lose that game.

We have enough talent IMO that if we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot we win another one score game.

Boston Saint 09-15-2023 07:44 PM

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I don’t know if you saw the post I made during last game rez, but I asked your opinion on when, and why players decide to put in their mouthpieces an any given play. Do you have any thoughts on that? Appreciate your input.

rezburna 09-15-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 979852)
I don’t know if you saw the post I made during last game rez, but I asked your opinion on when, and why players decide to put in their mouthpieces an any given play. Do you have any thoughts on that? Appreciate your input.

Sometimes you just forget. I would take mine out in between plays and stick it in my facemask and start talking or playing around then just forget to put it back in. I don’t think it’s intentional.

SmashMouth 09-15-2023 07:55 PM

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rezburna 09-15-2023 07:59 PM

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Olave - 81.2
Shaheed - 81.6
Thomas - 66.7

Our receiving core is elite. I wish I was the offensive coordinator.

SmashMouth 09-15-2023 08:00 PM

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K Major 09-15-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 979856)

Obviously, the football IQ is there. Continue to get better every day at practice & in film study.

Boston Saint 09-15-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 979853)
Sometimes you just forget. I would take mine out in between plays and stick it in my facemask and start talking or playing around then just forget to put it back in. I don’t think it’s intentional.

Thanks. That makes sense. It thought it would seem different when it’s on a strap attached to your face ask. Seems like that would be a hindrance bouncing around while making plays.

AsylumGuido 09-16-2023 12:42 PM

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This might come as a surprise to some.


Rugby Saint II 09-16-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 979855)
Olave - 81.2
Shaheed - 81.6
Thomas - 66.7

Our receiving core is elite. I wish I was the offensive coordinator.

Run! Fast! Sheed!

AsylumGuido 09-16-2023 05:43 PM

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SmashMouth 09-17-2023 10:25 AM

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Sinner 09-17-2023 11:06 AM

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This is going to be a BIG TEST… after a squeaky one point victory in the home opener, this test will tell us a lot about this team and its coaching staff.

I DO NOT plan to be mr negative, but if we start sucking and failing this test, y’all can blast away at me. I am cautiously optimistic…

Rugby Saint II 09-17-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 979888)
This is going to be a BIG TEST… after a squeaky one point victory in the home opener, this test will tell us a lot about this team and its coaching staff.

I DO NOT plan to be mr negative, but if we start sucking and failing this test, y’all can blast away at me. I am optimistic

FIFY :bng:

K Major 09-17-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 979888)
This is going to be a BIG TEST… after a squeaky one point victory in the home opener, this test will tell us a lot about this team and its coaching staff.

I DO NOT plan to be mr negative, but if we start sucking and failing this test, y’all can blast away at me. I am cautiously optimistic

Yes.

The Oline and overall run game needs to play better. More screens would be nice. Divisional opponents are never easy.

A team we lost to TWICE last year.

Week to week league at this level but I like our chances.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 979901)
Yes.

The Oline and overall run game needs to play better. More screens would be nice. Divisional opponents are never easy.

A team we lost to TWICE last year.

Week to week league at this level but I like our chances.

Yes, we lost to them twice. Once while displaced by Hurricane Ida and missing eight our our coaches for the week and without our top WR's and no Derek Carr. The other when already eliminated with Dalton at QB, Landon Young and Josh Andrews starting at Guard and Tackle. The great Tre'Quan and Shaheed starting at WR. Werner was out at LB.

Just saying!

:bng:

K Major 09-17-2023 03:14 PM

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NFC South related …

Just like that, Falcons AND Tampa are 2-0.

Saints need to take care of business tomorrow night.

The Dude 09-17-2023 03:28 PM

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Tampa and Atlanta are both better football teams than ours.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 979905)
Tampa and Atlanta are both better football teams than ours.

And why do you think that? I mean, besides being down on everything our team does, of course. You know, something tangible.

Thanks in advance!

:bng:

Edit: Still waiting! :D

AsylumGuido 09-17-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 979904)
NFC South related …

Just like that, Falcons AND Tampa are 2-0.

Saints need to take care of business tomorrow night.

And the teams they've faced are a combined 1-3. It was well publicized that the schedules of all the NFC teams were the easiest in the league. That's why all of these ridiculous projections of the winner of our division being 9-8 or worse. Both of these teams beat teams they should beat, as should we.

jnormand 09-17-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 979905)
Tampa and Atlanta are both better football teams than ours.

Idk about that quite yet. I have to see how the Saints play tomorrow to really get an idea.

Imo, if the offensive line can’t muster up a better performance than last week I might agree with you. But the jury is still out on this team as far as I’m concerned.

I think our defense is decent. I think Carr is good but no QB can be super good without protection. Our receivers are good. But we need a running game.

Boston Saint 09-17-2023 05:04 PM

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There’s way too much football left in the season to worry about who the “better” team is right now.

BakoSaint 09-17-2023 05:04 PM

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The Saints, Atlanta, and Tampa have all looked good this year. We don't know which is best. The Saints spent more 2024 salary cap to win now in 2023 and will be less well positioned to add talent in free agency and retain breakout stars in the upcoming offseason, but for now we will have to wait further for the season to play out to see who is best. The NFC South is 3-0 against the NFC North so its not clear we are an especially weak division at all, though we haven't played the Lions yet and they haven't played Carolina yet.

Sinner 09-17-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 979910)
There’s way too much football left in the season to worry about who the “better” team is right now.

No. Right now is EXACTLY the time to figure out who the better team is right now.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 979913)
No. Right now is EXACTLY the time to figure out who the better team is right now.

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Boston Saint 09-17-2023 06:20 PM

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No. Right now is EXACTLY the time to figure out who the better team is right now.

I say it is the time to focus on Carolina, not worry if we are better than Tampa or Atl. The Saints will get the chance to show that when they play those teams. No easy wins in this league and it’s a marathon season.

Sinner 09-17-2023 06:29 PM

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Say right now. Game 2. Just Win Baby.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 979915)
I say it is the time to focus on Carolina, not worry if we are better than Tampa or Atl. The Saints will get the chance to show that when they play those teams. No easy wins in this league and it’s a marathon season.

But if he waits he can't say we suck! :D He's got to get it in now.

rezburna 09-17-2023 06:39 PM

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Most things can be overcome in the NFL through scheming and playcalling. We simply need to exploit match ups. Carolina spends almost 90% of their snaps in zone. Chris Olave excels in finding the holes in the zone. We need to spread that zone out and create holes in the defense. Four and Five Wide sets.

Sinner 09-17-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979917)
But if he waits he can't say we suck! :D He's got to get it in now.

Nah… If we wait, we can do that stupid impossible elimination calculation game at the end of the season… you know the one where there’s still some hallucinogenic mathematical chance that we make it to the Super Bowl…

I say WIN NOW. NO EXCUSES.

leilung 09-18-2023 07:47 AM

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Need to win. Period. Losing to Carolina puts us in the hole in the Dirty South and we need to lead from the front, as the saying goes.

SmashMouth 09-18-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 979931)
Need to win. Period. Losing to Carolina puts us in the hole in the Dirty South and we need to lead from the front, as the saying goes.

We will ... :bng:

K Major 09-18-2023 10:11 AM

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Well, after Chicago got curb stomped on yesterday ... Moose Johnson says the best team in the NFC South is > Tampa :eek:.

Interesting.

Saints need to leave no doubt. Every. Single. Week.
Starting with the Panthers on tonight.

SmashMouth 09-18-2023 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 979937)
Well, after Chicago got curb stomped on yesterday ... Moose Johnson says the best team in the NFC South is > Tampa :eek:.

Interesting.

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