Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers

K Major · 09-13-2023, 12:21 PM

FYI, Coach Frank R has stated that Jaycee Horn's injury is serious and will be out for quite a while. Surgery isn't out of the question either.

It's been labeled as a "freak" injury.

I'm not a doctor but geesh, that could be potentially season ending.

Good kid, good player and I don't wish injuries on NO one.

BakoSaint · 09-13-2023, 06:55 PM

The Falcons beat them by 14. I would like to see us win by 14 or more, or else you can't help but call the Falcons division favorites at this point even if the Lions beat the Falcons (the Lions have to be favorites in a stronger division this year). If we merely win, which can happen because many NFC South games are often tight, I don't want us to get caught up in our own hype.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2023, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The Falcons beat them by 14. I would like to see us win by 14 or more, or else you can't help but call the Falcons division favorites at this point even if the Lions beat the Falcons (the Lions have to be favorites in a stronger division this year). If we merely win, which can happen because many NFC South games are often tight, I don't want us to get caught up in our own hype.

Your hype or my hype don't matter. We can hype all we want with no affect. That's what so fun about being a fan.

rezburna · 09-13-2023, 07:07 PM

We’re supposed to blow this team out. They don’t have anybody on offense that should threaten our secondary. Miles Sanders always seems to run well against us though. I’m not banking on victory at any point this year. I just want the offense to take a giant leap in the right direction.

SmashMouth · 09-13-2023, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We’re supposed to blow this team out. They don’t have anybody on offense that should threaten our secondary. Miles Sanders always seems to run well against us though. I’m not banking on victory at any point this year. I just want the offense to take a giant leap in the right direction.

I read somewhere DC4 is on pace for 5000 yards. He'll probably take a bigger leap toward this this game .

BakoSaint · 09-13-2023, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I read somewhere DC4 is on pace for 5000 yards. He'll probably take a bigger leap toward this this game .

If you throw 300 yards in game 1 of a 17 game season you are on pace for 5100 yards. Thats math. But it doesnt mean a 300 yard game can’t be a B grade performance if you are 1:1 on TD:INT and you offense scores 16 points. I look for better.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2023, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

If you throw 300 yards in game 1 of a 17 game season you are on pace for 5100 yards. Thats math. But it doesnt mean a 300 yard game can’t be a B grade performance if you are 1:1 on TD:INT and you offense scores 16 points. I look for better.

A number in the win column is all that really matters as far as I'm concerned.

subguy · 09-14-2023, 06:15 AM

If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part.

I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr.

Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can.

Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south.

If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do.

I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-14-2023, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part.

I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr.

Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can.

Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south.

If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do.

I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them.

All good points with regard to the Oline performance and it’s affect on Carr and timing on route development. This week will tell give us a clearer picture, for me I just think 1st game of the season and they faced a team that has had the #1 and #2 run defense for the past 2 years and they added a speed end rusher this year. There was plenty of struggles across the Oline last week Penning being the most obvious.

If that type of Oline play continues Monday …. we’ve got problems. For what it worth after week 1 Power Rankings the Saints are ranked at 13 and the Panthers 30. Titans come in at 24.

Rankings 1-12 in order
49ers
Cowboys
Eagles
Chiefs
Bills
Bengals
Dolphins
Lions
Browns
Ravens
Chargers
Jaguars

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2023, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part.

I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr.

Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can.

Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south.

If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do.

I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them.

We were actually also missing our rookie RB Kendre Miller who is expected to be contributing on a regular basis. Hopefully he's back this week.

09-13-2023, 06:55 PM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,407	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers The Falcons beat them by 14. I would like to see us win by 14 or more, or else you can't help but call the Falcons division favorites at this point even if the Lions beat the Falcons (the Lions have to be favorites in a stronger division this year). If we merely win, which can happen because many NFC South games are often tight, I don't want us to get caught up in our own hype. SmashMouth likes this.
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09-13-2023, 10:20 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by BakoSaint The Falcons beat them by 14. I would like to see us win by 14 or more, or else you can't help but call the Falcons division favorites at this point even if the Lions beat the Falcons (the Lions have to be favorites in a stronger division this year). If we merely win, which can happen because many NFC South games are often tight, I don't want us to get caught up in our own hype. Your hype or my hype don't matter. We can hype all we want with no affect. That's what so fun about being a fan.

09-13-2023, 07:07 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers We’re supposed to blow this team out. They don’t have anybody on offense that should threaten our secondary. Miles Sanders always seems to run well against us though. I’m not banking on victory at any point this year. I just want the offense to take a giant leap in the right direction. leilung and SmashMouth like this.

09-13-2023, 08:58 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,961 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by rezburna We’re supposed to blow this team out. They don’t have anybody on offense that should threaten our secondary. Miles Sanders always seems to run well against us though. I’m not banking on victory at any point this year. I just want the offense to take a giant leap in the right direction. I read somewhere DC4 is on pace for 5000 yards. He'll probably take a bigger leap toward this this game .

09-13-2023, 09:07 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,407	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth I read somewhere DC4 is on pace for 5000 yards. He'll probably take a bigger leap toward this this game . If you throw 300 yards in game 1 of a 17 game season you are on pace for 5100 yards. Thats math. But it doesnt mean a 300 yard game can’t be a B grade performance if you are 1:1 on TD:INT and you offense scores 16 points. I look for better.
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09-13-2023, 12:21 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers FYI, Coach Frank R has stated that Jaycee Horn's injury is serious and will be out for quite a while. Surgery isn't out of the question either. It's been labeled as a "freak" injury. I'm not a doctor but geesh, that could be potentially season ending. Good kid, good player and I don't wish injuries on NO one. Boston Saint likes this.

09-13-2023, 10:21 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by BakoSaint If you throw 300 yards in game 1 of a 17 game season you are on pace for 5100 yards. Thats math. But it doesnt mean a 300 yard game can’t be a B grade performance if you are 1:1 on TD:INT and you offense scores 16 points. I look for better. A number in the win column is all that really matters as far as I'm concerned.

09-14-2023, 06:15 AM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part. I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr. Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can. Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south. If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do. I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them. Boston Saint likes this.
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09-14-2023, 08:44 AM	#9
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by subguy If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part. I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr. Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can. Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south. If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do. I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them. All good points with regard to the Oline performance and it’s affect on Carr and timing on route development. This week will tell give us a clearer picture, for me I just think 1st game of the season and they faced a team that has had the #1 and #2 run defense for the past 2 years and they added a speed end rusher this year. There was plenty of struggles across the Oline last week Penning being the most obvious. If that type of Oline play continues Monday …. we’ve got problems. For what it worth after week 1 Power Rankings the Saints are ranked at 13 and the Panthers 30. Titans come in at 24. Rankings 1-12 in order 49ers Cowboys Eagles Chiefs Bills Bengals Dolphins Lions Browns Ravens Chargers Jaguars subguy likes this.

09-14-2023, 11:47 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by subguy If the defense plays as spirited as they did in the last game it will go a long way to a victory. I would like to see them actually get to the QB more but pressure is good. Our secondary appears capable of doing their part. I feel that while Carr is getting more in sync with his offense our defense is his key. I have always been guardedly optimistic about Derek Carr. Our O-Line and running game are a wee bit suspect. These two negatives concern me a lot, not necessarily about this game but the season. Granted we are down Kamara but he is only one man and an injury contains him more than any defensive scheme can. Carr's outlets are currently the TE's since we don't have a back that has shown they will be able to get open in the swing and catch a ball. We know Williams is north-south. If the O-Line improves and performs that diminishes the need for the quick outlet and gives Carr time to pick apart a secondary with Thomas, Olave and Shaheed. As the team sat last week for their first game the defense picked up the slack, but that is what winning teams do. I think we will win the game but need to see the offense improving and heading in an upward direction to have more confidence in them. We were actually also missing our rookie RB Kendre Miller who is expected to be contributing on a regular basis. Hopefully he's back this week.