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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I’m tired of drafting guys that can’t stay on the field....
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
I’m tired of drafting guys that can’t stay on the field.
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Rasheed Shahid has entered the chat
![]() Coming off of that torn ACL at Weber St, I assumed his rookie season would be simply a “red shirt” year. Boy was I wrong. But Boston, I get it 💯. Davenport, Payton Turner, Anazalone all had medical red flags in college yet Saints still gambled on em. |
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Originally Posted by K Major
ALL team draft players with some injury history. There aren't many players that exit college that haven't encountered some sort of injury during their short careers. That's why football is called the 100% injury sport.
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Originally Posted by K Major
But Rasheed Shaheed was not drafted, so we didn't draft a guy coming off serious injuries in his case. We gambled house money. Had we been able to acquire Marcus Davenport as an undrafted free agent he would have been one of our top 10 or 20 undrafted free agent finds of the last decade.![]()
In my view if you go to the store and you see a shirt that you like but its missing a button, you try to get it half off. If you are buying a used car and it has a salvage title and the engine makes noise you expect to pay less. You don't pay full price on optimistic upside. And then if you have a long commute to a new job where you have to prove yourself quickly to stay on, you don't but that salvage car with the engine noise as your daily commute vehicle. Likewise when we acquire injured players we should only do so at a discount. That should be a real discount, ie a discount relative to what they have actually showed on the field, not relative to the most optimistic possible scenario of what they might have shown on the field, or else top high school recruits would just try to stay injured all of college to guarantee first round pick status. And if we can get a player off a discount because of college injuries, we have to realize there is risk and prepare for that risk, not pencil them in as a starter with no backup plan and draw up a generous long term extension the second they manage to play 10 games in a row. I am not especially familiar with Davenport and Turner's college injury histories. Alex Analzone and Taysom Hill had very extensive college injury histories. For many years we counted too much on Analzone being healthy when all the history told us he would not be. I am generally of the opinion that Taysom Hill has only been kept healthy through limited use and is still a ticking time bomb. I guess its possible a player becomes durable in their mid-30's like reverse-Cam-Newton but I am doubting it. |
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
That’s a lot to unpack .. btw Taysom Hill wasn’t drafted by New Orleans.![]()
I”ll dumb it down for some (not speaking to you specifically) … I wouldn’t have touched Turner OR Davenport in the first round & Ha”ouli Kakaha in rd 2 either. Thor (Alex A) would have been off my board all together. To Boston’s earlier point, leave some of these guys with questionable medicals coming out of college alone. Especially in rd 1. Let em sit someone else’s injury report. |
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
Anzalone has become pretty durable for the Lions. He has started 33 of 37 games for them since 2021 including the last 19 straight. In his four previous seasons with us he started 20 of 64. Perhaps we were too impatient and should have waited.
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Meh, I think we were due an upgrade regardless, which Werner definitely is.
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Re: Injury report - Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
The biggest trouble with Anzalone (and likely why we let him go) was he very athletically sped right into the trash. ![]()
And, would make tackles many yards downfield after big gains. Not good vs the run. Looked athletic, though. I watched him every play at the Sr Bowl wanting to draft him (or someone) to fix our run defense problem. He was disappointing and I was disappointed. So glad the left. |
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