Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread

09-18-2023, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points.

I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term.

I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough.

Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though

SmashMouth · 09-18-2023, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I took panthers +3.

Should you turn in your fan card?

hitta · 09-18-2023, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points.

I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term.

I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough.

Carr blows those guys out of the water. He's still growing more accustomed to the receivers, it takes time. A lot of the issues were communication issues other than the O-line being porous. Carr made a lot of great throws in this game.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-18-2023, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though

Like get rid of Hill …

jnormand · 09-18-2023, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Like get rid of Hill …

Blasphemy!!!!!

WW_Who_Dat · 09-18-2023, 11:26 PM

That kind thing in The Big Easy will get your name on a voodoo doll with a big ole pin.

rezburna · 09-19-2023, 08:44 AM

We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-19-2023, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7.

Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season.

We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script.

After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel.

Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said.

Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now.

Safety play is solid.

Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test …

rezburna · 09-19-2023, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season.

We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script.

After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel.

Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said.

Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now.

Safety play is solid.

Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test …

Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

I believe that will be coming more when Carr can get enough time to make those plays.

09-18-2023, 10:33 PM	#251
Threaded by Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points. I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term. I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough. Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though
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09-18-2023, 10:33 PM	#252
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Boston Saint I took panthers +3. Should you turn in your fan card?

09-18-2023, 10:35 PM	#253
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points. I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term. I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough. Carr blows those guys out of the water. He's still growing more accustomed to the receivers, it takes time. A lot of the issues were communication issues other than the O-line being porous. Carr made a lot of great throws in this game. jnormand and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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09-18-2023, 10:56 PM	#254
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though Like get rid of Hill …

09-18-2023, 11:05 PM	#255
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09-18-2023, 11:26 PM	#256
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread That kind thing in The Big Easy will get your name on a voodoo doll with a big ole pin. Halo and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-19-2023, 08:44 AM	#257
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7. iceshack149, WW_Who_Dat and Boston Saint like this.

09-19-2023, 09:49 AM	#258
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by rezburna We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7. Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season. We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script. After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel. Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said. Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now. Safety play is solid. Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test … iceshack149 and AsylumGuido like this.

09-19-2023, 11:24 AM	#259
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season. We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script. After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel. Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said. Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now. Safety play is solid. Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test … Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

09-19-2023, 12:58 PM	#260
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game. I believe that will be coming more when Carr can get enough time to make those plays.