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Kings of the Nega-Saints didn't give them props from what I just read here and slammed them instead. But, ...

... death, taxes, and haters gonna hate. Those are a given.

:bng:

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At what point do we put Peat in?

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What do you think, Peat to replace Hurst and Hurst takes the roll of left side swing man, or do you put in Peat and move Hurst over and bench Penning?

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Nega Saints want to see their team WIN CONVINCINGLY.

NEXT UP: Green Bay.

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^^ Valid Bako.

We don't all have to agree on the team's performances thus far but a few clowns here claim you aren't a "fan or hating".

Completely valid take.

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Penning actually performed better this game. Benching Trevor doesn't improve his play. He simply needs more reps.

As for Hurst, he hasn't look good in either games. He might be a better candidate for "benching". Not to mention Ruiz played poorly last night.

The Oline (collectively), needs to improve.

But in the end, I'm just a couch coach, GM and head trainer :rolleyes:.

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That's what she said!! :awe:

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- First half especially was an utter snooze-fest. We need to get better in the redzone. Need to ditch these "slow starts" that have become so frequent in the 2020's.
- The run D issues from 2022 seem mostly addressed!
- Granderson and Alonte Taylor are elevating their play big-time.
- I don't think there is much point at using Taysom at TE anymore. J. Johnson and Moreau can hold it down. He serves this team best as a power-runner at HB or FB or from the QB Power set. Would love to see more of him as a rotational HB. Treat him like he's Mike Alstott, not Tony Gonzales or Shannon Sharpe.
- Next week vs Packers will be a bigger test. Love is much further along than Bryce Young.

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- First of all, it's clear that defenses are WAY ahead of offenses in the games I have seen so far this season. Clearly with the Saints, but also teams across the league. This makes sense given the lack of playing time the collective offensive lines and key skill position players have seen in the preseason. I expect improvement weekly.

- The offensive line had their hands full with Burns, Houston, and company, but so will most teams this season.

- Penning looked much better.

- Defense was dictating what the offense could do for both teams. See the first point above.

- Thomas is still Thomas and accounted for multiple big first downs.

- Even with all of the pressure in Carr's face he still made throws that we haven't seen in years.

- For the second straight week we won the turnover battle (2 to 1) even without the one we would have had if Adebo hadn't fouled.

- I like that we showed a commitment to the run. 33 runs to 37 passes. 134 yards on the ground against that Carolina defense isn't bad.

- Getting Kendre Miller back next week and Kamara the following week will be a shot in the arm for the offense, I believe, coupled with another week to gel for the line.

- Taysom finally got some sizable usage out there and it paid off big.

- Grupe once again looked great in every phase and Hedley, not as much. Not horrible (42.0 average), but nothing special.

- Granderson is becoming a beast.

- Cam Jordan never seems to age.

- Olave, Shaheem, and Thomas all made great catches at key moments.

- Tony Jones came through big when needed.

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I only saw the one replay of that call, but did anybody else thing it was kind of a ticky-tack call? I've seen much worse go ignored.

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I'll take winning these so called "ugly" games over losing them any day of the week. Last year we would have lost both of these first two games. Winning can become contagious, as can losing. Our offense managed to run out the clock with the lead both weeks. That's something we were totally unable to do the last couple of years.

2-0 baby!

:bng:

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Yeah. It was a foul, but something that is usually overlooked. That it negated a huge play just made it even that much more glaring.

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+1.

Saunders is looking like a key off season signing.

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In the back of my mind, I bet this ref was thinking ...

"Let's see if the Panthers are able to get a 1st down before I throw a late flag to keep their drive alive" :rolleyes:.

It was the right call, but damn it was super late.

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This will be a bit of a hit for the Panthers moving forward.

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Gotta love Cam. :D

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Here's at least some good news on Penning. He's one of only four regular tackles in the league (at least 64) that has not committed a penalty.

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Overall, good win against a division opponent which is never easy.

However, my biggest concern is still the same concern I have expressed for the last 3 years. Our offensive play calling is just awful at times, we don't adapt to what the defense is doing and when we find something that works we don't stick to it. The announcers pointed out several play calls that didn't make sense to them. Carr will be better with Kamara, he needs a check down for the quick rush, but the play calling in general won't get better with Pete.

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It's hard to put too much blame on playcalling when plays are getting blown up before they can take place.

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Kay has this right!

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I’ll make a similar observation as after game one; Some like to put a negative spin on a W. Are there problems, sure. Are there things that need working on, absolutely! Have we played well enough to be 2-0…Hell Yeah.

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One of my happy moments in this game was seeing Andy Dalton come into the game and was not in a Saints uniform.

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It just seems like how badly we beat Carolina vs how badly Atlanta did is a strange barometer to use. Starting with the fact we were on the road at a Monday night crowd and they were in Atl is the first issue. I could delve deeper but you probably aren’t interested in my viewpoint.

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Bring in another RB.

Miller has yet to play an NFL game, Williams (hamstrings can linger for months) is dealing with a sore hamstring and our star RB is still on suspension.

I would have kept Merriweather over TJJ.

17 games + the possibility of post season is a grind.

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A bit of further info for the Panthers/Falcons game. Here is a link to the team stats:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/401547403

Carolina had a lead in the game and it was tied in the fourth. Carolina had more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing, yards. What gave Atl the W was a rookie quarterback, playing his first NFL game ever in a hostile crowd turning the ball over.

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Tony Jones, Jr had past experience in the Saints offense. Ellis Merriweather is still out there unemployed on nobody's roster OR practice squad. Thirty-one other teams have not picked him up as of yet or signed him to their practice squads so perhaps your evaluation is a tad bit flawed? Just sayin'. ;)

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Exactly! Atlanta only managed 221 yards AT HOME against the Carolina defense that we ran up 341 yards against on their home field. Atlanta gave up 281 yards to the Panthers offense while Carolina could only muster 239 against us with a third of that coming on their last possession with the Saints in a time burning "prevent defense".

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I don't think it's premature here but maybe I owe Jeff Duncan an apology.

He was spot on when he said Carl Granderson has been playing out of his mind at camp. I see now.

That strip sack & turnover was textbook.

Carl is becoming a serious force off the edge.

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Panthers Derrick Brown trying to start crap with Michael Thomas after the game.

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Our offense has proven it can move the ball. It's just they keep faltering in the redzone.

If they can come away with TD's more often than FG's, we will be tough to beat.

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It's coming.

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Dead on, Rich!

Preach, my brother! Preach!

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Olave's catch was absolutely nuts. The defender pulled his receiving arm down before he made the catch.

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Yeah. The commentators said it may be the best catch of the whole year.

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I think Bryce Young is going to be a tough out in the near future. He's got the physical ability and looks unfazed in the game.

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You could be right but with the Panther Oline and with BY’s size more probable that he gets hit just one time in a full on rush by a big Dlineman and it’s game over. He might have been successful escaping in SEC trying tha in the NFL is like a dog chasing cars … it takes just one time. Thinking and remembering RG3.