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Old 09-18-2023, 09:24 PM   #1
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Good win on the road.

2-0 Baby!

Revenge win from last year puts the Saints in an enviable position atop the NFC South. Good defense and stout run defense game .

Let's enjoy this for a day or two.

Who Dat!

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Old 09-18-2023, 09:30 PM   #2
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Apart from the last drive, the defense was excellent.

My only gripe is Adebo needs to stop holding. He wiped away a massive sack fumble by Brian Bresee because he grabbed the receiver.
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:31 PM   #3
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I thought Sinner had a brain aneurysm and died after watching that last Panthers drive and subsequent 2 point conversion. Luckily he responded on the thread so I know he’s alive still.

Pretty obvious we need more Taysom in games too. Maybe he can spell the offensive lineman occasionally too.
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Seems to be trend with Adebo …
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10 years since we were last 2-0 !
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10 years since we were last 2-0 !
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NegaSaints fans need not apply to enjoy this win !
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:54 PM   #8
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Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers

The way I look at it we are in a 3-way tie for 3rd place in the division. I posted before the game that I would not be some '2-0 baby!' optimist if we didn't beat the Panthers by the 14 points Atlanta did or better, after the Panthers lost 2 starters during the week. Well, the Panther's lost a 3rd key starter in the game and we beat them by only 3.

If you look at the 3-way tie in our division, we have had the easiest schedule of the 3 teams so far based on 2022 record. Our opponents had a combined 14 wins in 2022, Atlanta's had 15, Tampa's had 16. Between that and the much closer game against the same opponent, we are clearly positioned behind Atlanta and Tampa in our performance so far this season.

We do not need to use more Taysom Hill going forward. This game was typical. Hill is good against bad teams with bad run defenses so he makes plays early against those teams, gets more plays later, racks up stats, and so 'when we use him enough, he is effective.' But if play SF or Philly or Dallas etc and we just keep handing the ball to Hill, we will get shut out unless our defense scores.

Carolina is an incredibly bad team. They could go 0-17. They look like one of the weakest teams on our schedule.

Shaheed and Olave are great. Thomas is a quality WR3. We didn't use TEs or RBs much in our passing game, maybe they were all too busy helping Penning. It takes a village to raise a child.

Grupe is great.

Our defense is very good but I think there are better defenses in the NFL, or perhaps defenses in the NFL that benefit from breathing more between possessions.

I will be surprised if we win more than 1 of the next 3 games. At this point I think all 3 have looked better than us so far this season. We will see. We play the Packers next. We played a team Atlanta beat by 14 and came out ahead by 3, now we play a team Atlanta could only beat by 1. If we are better than Atlanta now is the time to prove it. We didn't prove it this week.
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Old 09-18-2023, 10:01 PM   #9
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Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers

I agree with most of what you said. But I like Hill. If we were playing such a bad run defense why couldn’t our backs get something going? Hill has a place in the offense and is effective at making defenses guess.

I’m not saying use him exclusively. Hell no. But he got going later in the second half and was effective at moving the chains.

Anyway, I wasn’t super impressed with that win. Of course I’m glad we got the W, but I was hoping for a more decisive victory. Lol.
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NegaSaints fans need not apply to enjoy this win !
Opps up pops Ain’tNOFan 😱
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