Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers

09-19-2023, 04:54 AM

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Cruize · 09-19-2023, 05:56 AM

-Divisional road win..
-Defense is the truth.
-Hill energizes the offense. A true difference maker.
-Groupe perfect.
-Thomas, Olave and Shaheed are play makers.
-Carr is struggling at best.
-Oline struggling in pass protection.
-Play calling is lacking all the way around.
-TE Johnson has been surprisingly invisible.
-Jones stepped up.
-Kamara just being on the field is needed.

subguy · 09-19-2023, 06:59 AM

Another win..yaaay

O-Line - 4 sacks, two weeks in a row. I am not sure out of those 4 sacks if Carr could have done more to avoid the sacks.

Grupe - so far so perfect

Hill - doing what Hill does

Carr - I am still on the fence. To me, after GB if we still have Offensive issues I will be more concerned

WR corp - excellent targets for a veteran QB

Defense - Stellar, except last drive and that might have been bad scheme calling

Playcalling - very lethargic, need to light a creative fire under Pete's a$$

Kamara - we miss him

rezburna · 09-19-2023, 08:17 AM

Offense is too conservative. We need to create one on one match ups with our receivers and take shots down the field. Olave, Shaheed, and Thomas can all win one on one down the field. We’ve seen it everytime they tried it this season. At the least we can draw a PI. We have to put these defenses on their heels in order to work underneath like we want to. Jameis Winston was throwing a million picks but he was also throwing for 500 yards before he got here. He gets in Pete’s offense and he’s throwing 150 yards. It’s the style and philosophy of Pete’s system. He is the problem.

SmashMouth · 09-19-2023, 08:34 AM

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papz · 09-19-2023, 08:37 AM

Won another ugly game and I'm thankful for that. Defense looks good per usual. Saunders and Breese are both physically impressive. Offensive line and the run game needs to get it going to open things up.

leilung · 09-19-2023, 08:40 AM

"Dennis Allen’s New Orleans Saints defense just broke one of the best records in team history, established by the famed “Dome Patrol” themselves way back in 1991 — holding opposing offenses to 20 or fewer points in 10 consecutive games. It’s the longest active streak in the NFL, too."

One caveat: The Dome Patrol did it in a single season. DA's Saints did it over the tail end of last season into this one.

Say what you like about the struggles on Offense... That Defense tho! Straight fire! Even the Nega-Saints have to give them their props!

SmashMouth · 09-19-2023, 08:45 AM

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Sinner · 09-19-2023, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I laid it out before the game even started that I thought Carolina was a very bad team with a lot of injuries and that I would not be impressed unless we matched or bettered Atlanta's feat of beating them by 14. When others were doubting we would win at all, I reiterated I still thought we would probably win, but I was not happy winning a close game against one of the weakest teams on our easy schedule. Then we won a close game and I said I wasn't impressed. How can I be more consistent here? If we win at all next week I will be impressed because we play a decent team, though if our division rivals continue to win more impressively I will admit it.

We are paying Carr a lot of money and our oline is struggling with everyone healthy and active. It's not a great situation. I don't have your rose glasses. Could the offense all come together? Sure. But so could Carolinas, and Atlanta's could improve more, as could Tampa's. We are spending more 2024 money than any team in the league. Sorry if I am not impressed by beating two sub-.500 caliber teams by a combined 4 points and only being ahead of one team in our division.

Seriously salient points made here. A TRUE FAN calls it like he sees it. Only a blind fan or rose colored glasses fan can’t see it.

09-19-2023, 05:56 AM	#32
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers -Divisional road win.. -Defense is the truth. -Hill energizes the offense. A true difference maker. -Groupe perfect. -Thomas, Olave and Shaheed are play makers. -Carr is struggling at best. -Oline struggling in pass protection. -Play calling is lacking all the way around. -TE Johnson has been surprisingly invisible. -Jones stepped up. -Kamara just being on the field is needed. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.
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09-19-2023, 06:59 AM	#33
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Another win..yaaay O-Line - 4 sacks, two weeks in a row. I am not sure out of those 4 sacks if Carr could have done more to avoid the sacks. Grupe - so far so perfect Hill - doing what Hill does Carr - I am still on the fence. To me, after GB if we still have Offensive issues I will be more concerned WR corp - excellent targets for a veteran QB Defense - Stellar, except last drive and that might have been bad scheme calling Playcalling - very lethargic, need to light a creative fire under Pete's a$$ Kamara - we miss him jnormand, neugey and SmashMouth like this.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Offense is too conservative. We need to create one on one match ups with our receivers and take shots down the field. Olave, Shaheed, and Thomas can all win one on one down the field. We’ve seen it everytime they tried it this season. At the least we can draw a PI. We have to put these defenses on their heels in order to work underneath like we want to. Jameis Winston was throwing a million picks but he was also throwing for 500 yards before he got here. He gets in Pete’s offense and he’s throwing 150 yards. It’s the style and philosophy of Pete’s system. He is the problem.
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09-19-2023, 08:37 AM	#36
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Won another ugly game and I'm thankful for that. Defense looks good per usual. Saunders and Breese are both physically impressive. Offensive line and the run game needs to get it going to open things up. iceshack149 and K Major like this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers "Dennis Allen’s New Orleans Saints defense just broke one of the best records in team history, established by the famed “Dome Patrol” themselves way back in 1991 — holding opposing offenses to 20 or fewer points in 10 consecutive games. It’s the longest active streak in the NFL, too." One caveat: The Dome Patrol did it in a single season. DA's Saints did it over the tail end of last season into this one. Say what you like about the struggles on Offense... That Defense tho! Straight fire! Even the Nega-Saints have to give them their props! iceshack149, Crusader and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,874	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by BakoSaint I laid it out before the game even started that I thought Carolina was a very bad team with a lot of injuries and that I would not be impressed unless we matched or bettered Atlanta's feat of beating them by 14. When others were doubting we would win at all, I reiterated I still thought we would probably win, but I was not happy winning a close game against one of the weakest teams on our easy schedule. Then we won a close game and I said I wasn't impressed. How can I be more consistent here? If we win at all next week I will be impressed because we play a decent team, though if our division rivals continue to win more impressively I will admit it. We are paying Carr a lot of money and our oline is struggling with everyone healthy and active. It's not a great situation. I don't have your rose glasses. Could the offense all come together? Sure. But so could Carolinas, and Atlanta's could improve more, as could Tampa's. We are spending more 2024 money than any team in the league. Sorry if I am not impressed by beating two sub-.500 caliber teams by a combined 4 points and only being ahead of one team in our division. Seriously salient points made here. A TRUE FAN calls it like he sees it. Only a blind fan or rose colored glasses fan can’t see it. K Major likes this.
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