Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers

09-19-2023, 12:47 PM

It's hard to put too much blame on playcalling when plays are getting blown up before they can take place.

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AsylumGuido · 09-19-2023, 01:31 PM

Kay has this right!

If she wants to come to a game I guess I could leave my wife at home and Kay can use the ticket.

Or not.

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Boston Saint · 09-19-2023, 01:54 PM

I’ll make a similar observation as after game one; Some like to put a negative spin on a W. Are there problems, sure. Are there things that need working on, absolutely! Have we played well enough to be 2-0…Hell Yeah.

MatthewT · 09-19-2023, 02:14 PM

One of my happy moments in this game was seeing Andy Dalton come into the game and was not in a Saints uniform.

Boston Saint · 09-19-2023, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I laid it out before the game even started that I thought Carolina was a very bad team with a lot of injuries and that I would not be impressed unless we matched or bettered Atlanta's feat of beating them by 14. When others were doubting we would win at all, I reiterated I still thought we would probably win, but I was not happy winning a close game against one of the weakest teams on our easy schedule. Then we won a close game and I said I wasn't impressed. How can I be more consistent here? If we win at all next week I will be impressed because we play a decent team, though if our division rivals continue to win more impressively I will admit it.

We are paying Carr a lot of money and our oline is struggling with everyone healthy and active. It's not a great situation. I don't have your rose glasses. Could the offense all come together? Sure. But so could Carolinas, and Atlanta's could improve more, as could Tampa's. We are spending more 2024 money than any team in the league. Sorry if I am not impressed by beating two sub-.500 caliber teams by a combined 4 points and only being ahead of one team in our division.

It just seems like how badly we beat Carolina vs how badly Atlanta did is a strange barometer to use. Starting with the fact we were on the road at a Monday night crowd and they were in Atl is the first issue. I could delve deeper but you probably aren’t interested in my viewpoint.

K Major · 09-19-2023, 02:21 PM

Bring in another RB.

Miller has yet to play an NFL game, Williams (hamstrings can linger for months) is dealing with a sore hamstring and our star RB is still on suspension.

I would have kept Merriweather over TJJ.

17 games + the possibility of post season is a grind.

Boston Saint · 09-19-2023, 02:24 PM

A bit of further info for the Panthers/Falcons game. Here is a link to the team stats:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/401547403

Carolina had a lead in the game and it was tied in the fourth. Carolina had more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing, yards. What gave Atl the W was a rookie quarterback, playing his first NFL game ever in a hostile crowd turning the ball over.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2023, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bring in another RB.

Miller has yet to play an NFL game, Williams (hamstrings can linger for months) is dealing with a sore hamstring and our star RB is still on suspension.

I would have kept Merriweather over TJJ.

17 games + the possibility of post season is a grind.

Tony Jones, Jr had past experience in the Saints offense. Ellis Merriweather is still out there unemployed on nobody's roster OR practice squad. Thirty-one other teams have not picked him up as of yet or signed him to their practice squads so perhaps your evaluation is a tad bit flawed? Just sayin'.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2023, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

A bit of further info for the Panthers/Falcons game. Here is a link to the team stats:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/401547403

Carolina had a lead in the game and it was tied in the fourth. Carolina had more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing, yards. What gave Atl the W was a rookie quarterback, playing his first NFL game ever in a hostile crowd turning the ball over.

Exactly! Atlanta only managed 221 yards AT HOME against the Carolina defense that we ran up 341 yards against on their home field. Atlanta gave up 281 yards to the Panthers offense while Carolina could only muster 239 against us with a third of that coming on their last possession with the Saints in a time burning "prevent defense".

K Major · 09-19-2023, 03:03 PM

I don't think it's premature here but maybe I owe Jeff Duncan an apology.

He was spot on when he said Carl Granderson has been playing out of his mind at camp. I see now.

That strip sack & turnover was textbook.

Carl is becoming a serious force off the edge.

09-19-2023, 12:47 PM	#61
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09-19-2023, 01:31 PM	#62
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,721	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Kay has this right! Twitter If she wants to come to a game I guess I could leave my wife at home and Kay can use the ticket. Or not. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-19-2023, 01:54 PM	#63
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers I’ll make a similar observation as after game one; Some like to put a negative spin on a W. Are there problems, sure. Are there things that need working on, absolutely! Have we played well enough to be 2-0…Hell Yeah. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-19-2023, 02:14 PM	#64
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers One of my happy moments in this game was seeing Andy Dalton come into the game and was not in a Saints uniform. Crusader and AsylumGuido like this.

09-19-2023, 02:15 PM	#65
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by BakoSaint I laid it out before the game even started that I thought Carolina was a very bad team with a lot of injuries and that I would not be impressed unless we matched or bettered Atlanta's feat of beating them by 14. When others were doubting we would win at all, I reiterated I still thought we would probably win, but I was not happy winning a close game against one of the weakest teams on our easy schedule. Then we won a close game and I said I wasn't impressed. How can I be more consistent here? If we win at all next week I will be impressed because we play a decent team, though if our division rivals continue to win more impressively I will admit it. We are paying Carr a lot of money and our oline is struggling with everyone healthy and active. It's not a great situation. I don't have your rose glasses. Could the offense all come together? Sure. But so could Carolinas, and Atlanta's could improve more, as could Tampa's. We are spending more 2024 money than any team in the league. Sorry if I am not impressed by beating two sub-.500 caliber teams by a combined 4 points and only being ahead of one team in our division. It just seems like how badly we beat Carolina vs how badly Atlanta did is a strange barometer to use. Starting with the fact we were on the road at a Monday night crowd and they were in Atl is the first issue. I could delve deeper but you probably aren’t interested in my viewpoint. iceshack149 and AsylumGuido like this.
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09-19-2023, 02:21 PM	#66
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Bring in another RB. Miller has yet to play an NFL game, Williams (hamstrings can linger for months) is dealing with a sore hamstring and our star RB is still on suspension. I would have kept Merriweather over TJJ. 17 games + the possibility of post season is a grind. MatthewT, Crusader and Boston Saint like this.

09-19-2023, 02:24 PM	#67
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers A bit of further info for the Panthers/Falcons game. Here is a link to the team stats: https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/401547403 Carolina had a lead in the game and it was tied in the fourth. Carolina had more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing, yards. What gave Atl the W was a rookie quarterback, playing his first NFL game ever in a hostile crowd turning the ball over. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-19-2023, 02:37 PM	#68
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,721	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major Bring in another RB. Miller has yet to play an NFL game, Williams (hamstrings can linger for months) is dealing with a sore hamstring and our star RB is still on suspension. I would have kept Merriweather over TJJ. 17 games + the possibility of post season is a grind. Tony Jones, Jr had past experience in the Saints offense. Ellis Merriweather is still out there unemployed on nobody's roster OR practice squad. Thirty-one other teams have not picked him up as of yet or signed him to their practice squads so perhaps your evaluation is a tad bit flawed? Just sayin'.

09-19-2023, 02:46 PM	#69
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,721	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by Boston Saint A bit of further info for the Panthers/Falcons game. Here is a link to the team stats: https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/401547403 Carolina had a lead in the game and it was tied in the fourth. Carolina had more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing, yards. What gave Atl the W was a rookie quarterback, playing his first NFL game ever in a hostile crowd turning the ball over. Exactly! Atlanta only managed 221 yards AT HOME against the Carolina defense that we ran up 341 yards against on their home field. Atlanta gave up 281 yards to the Panthers offense while Carolina could only muster 239 against us with a third of that coming on their last possession with the Saints in a time burning "prevent defense".

09-19-2023, 03:03 PM	#70
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Win vs Panthers I don't think it's premature here but maybe I owe Jeff Duncan an apology. He was spot on when he said Carl Granderson has been playing out of his mind at camp. I see now. That strip sack & turnover was textbook. Carl is becoming a serious force off the edge. Crusader and dizzle88 like this.