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THIS ^^^ RIGHT HERE.

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Hearing Carr is done for the season. Was at the game and overheard some cops on the way out saying his x rays came back and he is probably done for the year, think he mentioned collar bone being broken….

Oh well, was a fun game to be on attendance for but same ole Saints.

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O-Line. 90% of this loss is due to an awful O-line, which like most said was gonna get our QB killed. Can't run, no time to pass.

We'd better sign another backup QB because Winston won't last long either and Haener (sp?) is out 3 more games.

We only scored 10 freaking points against a banged up Packer team.

If the O-line doesn't improve drastically we're an 8 loss team.

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Not looking good…

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Dennis Allen crapped the bed. Whether or not he called the plays doesn’t matter. He let the oc csll those plays in the 4th. JW does not have the team. Looked like the air was let out when Carr hit hurt and he took over. Defense played good until Green Bay saw #27 on the field. He was abused like a stray dog. 67 out of their 80 yard td drive was PI calls.

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Dennis Allen crapped the bed.

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I’m tired of the Winston vs Carr. This was a team loss from coaching to player execution. The O-Line is the biggest issue right now. Can’t block for run or pass. Neither QB has done anything so far this season which is very disheartening with all the weapons we have on offense.

At the end of the game, say what you want, Winston put us in position to reclaim the lead and Grupe missed. That’s not on Winston. It’s not Winston’s fault that the WRs were running the wrong routes.

Man…I don’t know why everyone hates Winston so much. He’s been nothing but a team player since he came here and has a winning record as a starting Quarterback for the Saints.

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Haters gonna hate.

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He did look kinda like Dan Marino there for a second… LMFAO

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Never seen you happier, Sinner. Soak it in, brother.

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He makes that kick and the Packers have over a minute to drive for a field goal of their own. Given our defenses performance over that last quarter, I think Green Bay would have had a shot at their own field goal.

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Can a team have confidence in any QB if they have no confidence in the oline? Does our oline deserve confidence? If the team seemed to progressively lose confidence in the QB over the course of the game maybe thats because our oline came in with two big liabilities, added a third when Ruiz went down, proved it when the backups struggled, and sealed the doubts when Carr got hurt. I guess we could had a young mobile QB who makes quick decisions and negates all that, but we don't.

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We don’t.

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You cannot really think the team would not rally around Winston. I haven’t heard or seen any players discredit Winston. I swear y’all act like Winston is out there trying to lose the game. Last season when he beat GB some of y’all still said he didn’t do enough but Carr was completely ineffective in the first half. If GB didn’t give us the short field we probably don’t score that first TD.

Our 4th quarter defense is terrible…11 points last week and 18 this week. That is a recipe for disaster when you have an offense that isn’t capable of putting 2 TD up per game.

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Report that Carr's injury may not be season ending.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...miss-some-time

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If you don’t fix the oline, it really doesn’t matter who is under center.

You may recall, in Baldy’s X’s & O’s breakdown vs Carolina, I specifically called out the entire line & saying “I’d rather our guy HOLD than having a breakdown/free release to our QB).

Unfortunately our protection broke down & it may have cost us our QB
for the season. If Dougie Marrone doesn’t get this figured out, Jameis is
going to get blown up as well.

Saints still lead the league in QB sacks allowed 2 straight weeks.

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Looks like Carr has an AC Joint Sprain. Some players come back from that in 1 week, but probably there are different grades and it could be a few weeks. Problem is he comes back to the same oline and our schedule gets tougher.

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Gentlemen, the ONLY difference in the first and second half was not the play caller. It was the signal caller.

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Well golly gee I'll be darned. Winston should have called for a punt return TD and a big INT in the second half. What was he thinking?

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Sprained AC joint is a relief.

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If this is the best you can come up with, we know where you stand or just maybe, you did not watch this game. Carr and Winston stats were very similar except Carr had a short field on one drive that a aided further by a personal foul.

The offense is in shambles regardless of the QB.

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And you’re still crying.

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“Happier”? This is the farthest from happy I’ve been in a long while. What I’m soaking in, is my beloved Saints SUCKING today, and the anticipation of more suckiness to come, that will not be addressed by anyone or anything besides your rose colored glasses.

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Wait until next week. LMFAO

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I'll be there in the dome as we move to 3-1. Much to your chagrin, I am sure.

;)

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I see the things through whatever colored glasses I choose. I look for the best and try my best to avoid depressingly negative people like you. But, go for it! And enjoy, my friend!!

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I enjoy when my beloved Saints WIN. I would say, “Imagine that”, but you’re obviously already doing that, and that’s not what it takes to get it done.

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And every moment up until that moment they actually win you see it all through your crap colored glasses.

I get it. Not really, but to each his or her own.

Who Dat, my Saints brother!

:bng:

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If “crap colored glasses” are what’s responsible for what I clearly saw today, then… dude, my head hurts even trying to explain it to you.

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We probably need to bring in a QB for the week. I think it would be interesting to look at some of the Patriots retreads. I don't know what Corral had going on when he left the team but we should look into it. If its excusable, he has upside. Also that Malik guy, a mobile option might be good with our oline. And the Patriots keep making roster moves so maybe they put Zappe back on the practice squad and we can snag him. I would rather one of these options than bring in a known horrible hopeless QB just because they know our system. Also we could use some information on the Patriots and/or Panthers.

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Still in number one spot in the NFC South !

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Yikes 😳 !

All I remember is him bad mouthing the previous Denver coaching staff publicly this off season.

Miami has playmakers but geesh. That score seemed personal.

I can’t recall any NFL team getting throttled in that manner.

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-Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching.
-Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws.
-Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign.
-The OL coach should be fired.
-The OC should be fired.
-With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30.
-The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th.
-Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off.
-Taylor is a better CB than Adebo.
-Jones and Miller looked good.
-Must win vs Tampa.

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Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think he it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger.

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Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger.

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Due to "technical difficulties" my ability to watch the last quarter was severely impaired. I have several questions that some of you could answer (without hysteria and hyberbole, but actual observations) that may be able to shed light on this loss for me. Please indulge me.

1) OLine struggles were still evident. What did the line look like after Ruiz went down and did the Carr injury happen as a result of the replacement being keyed on?

2) Inability to simply move the chains seems to be an ongoing theme. Largely, what are the likely culprits- PC's playcalling, Poor execution on all levels of the offense, Packer's D adjusting quicker than our ability to alter, Crowd noise, or some odd combination thereof.

3) Did there look like there was a cohesive plan to move the ball via ground game throughout the game or was it abandoned at some point in favor of throwing the ball downfield? Would AK41's presence have made a significant difference in that plan?

4) Defense got lucky with some dropsies more than a few times early in the game. What happened to the pressure on Love? did they abandon the early game plan (which appeared to be working well) to start dropping back in zone coverage?

Curious as to what some of you saw. Sadly, for some, I can already predict your responses, but surprise me. Let me have them anyway. Thanks!